Some think people enabling others to rape 10 year old boys is even worse than actually raping them.
Joe Pa in bad shape??
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Some think people enabling others to rape 10 year old boys is even worse than actually raping them.
When you know someone is raping young boys and you stand by idly and do nothing for over a decade... guess what, you are not much better than the guy doing the actual raping. He had the power to stop those rapes and he chose not to and continued to enable the rapist. Paterno deserves zero sympathy. The only thing that makes me sad if he does die soon is that he'll never have to take the stand in the Sandusky trial and publicly speak about the stuff from the grand jury testimony.
Hopefully he hangs on at least until Monday. After all, we know Paterno hates to ruin people's weekends with bad news.
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Yes he knew of the allegations. However, it is a jump in logic to say he knew what took place. He knew law enforcement and eventually a grand jury were investigating. We can all agree that it took too long to go from allegations to indictment. But we don't know if Paterno had anything to do with the delay. Anyway, I guess my point is knowing someone is accused of something and knowing that they did something are two very different things.
Again, I'm not saying that Paterno isn't to blame for the situation, only that we don't know.
What most people are asking for retrospectively is that when Paterno found out about accusations, he assume they are true, and not only remove someone from their job, but also limit what they are able to do in their life to the fullest extent he could. Retrospectively this is what he should have done in order to mitigate the horrible damage that was done, but that's a nearly impossible standard.
The real question is what did Paterno know and when did he know it. And we probably won't ever find out, for better or worse.
I wouldn't have a problem with what Jopa did, if the person raising the initial accusations were someone not associated with he program. If a kid came out and said, "Sandusky did this to me." then I could see Jopa standing behind his guy. But the accusations came from someone within the program, someone who'd been a player, then a graduate assistant. To sluff this off as the cops or the Grand Jury's problem reeks of one of two things to me. Either he was worried his trusted friend would be blasted in the media, or his own name would be blasted in the media and destroy what he'd worked so hard to build. I can't give Jopa the benefit of doubt in this one. This one reeks of wrong doing no matter how I look at it.
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Its probably a problem with no solution unfortunately. Either more innocent people can have their lives negatively changed, but more guilty people will be brought to justice. Or less people will be wrongly accused, but not as many rapists and abusers will be caught.
Joe Paterno led his life with absolute decency. To read the comments on this board makes me sick. He led his life with the goal of aspiring for more than just athletic success. He led it to change the way we thought about life. His goal was always about the academics of student-athlete first. When you live a life of morality and honor, you should be rewarded in the end, not dragged through the mud and thrown to wolves without due process. When you have 85 years of integrity and respect, shouldn't you have the benefit of doubt?
I can only hope I can be half the man JoePa was.
I can only hope I can be half the man JoePa was.
Would you let your son, go alone on a trip to Florida with JoPa and Sandusky? No, I wouldn't either.
I wish my son had an opportunity to spend some time with JoePa. I know he would be better because of it.
<sigh> Dead yet?
With all the 'don't urinate off people' caveats (every thing in here is personal opinion, you're free to disagree):
I'm sick of Penn State Pedolions threads on here.
Yay for coach for getting all them wins and stuff.
Boo for letting his defense coach keep running loose on the undersided backfields.
Mr. Paterno did some good things in his life. He also let some horribly bad things go on in his locker room(whether by omission or commission). The focus on winning above all else in college sports will ensure that the same thing happens again, is covered up again, and is shown the same level of outrage again.
Honor before victory.
With all the 'don't urinate off people' caveats (every thing in here is personal opinion, you're free to disagree):
I'm sick of Penn State Pedolions threads on here.
Yay for coach for getting all them wins and stuff.
Boo for letting his defense coach keep running loose on the undersided backfields.
Mr. Paterno did some good things in his life. He also let some horribly bad things go on in his locker room(whether by omission or commission). The focus on winning above all else in college sports will ensure that the same thing happens again, is covered up again, and is shown the same level of outrage again.
Honor before victory.
Traumatic events can assist cancer in progressing, I've been told by a couple doctors when they have diagnosed loved ones of mine. It is possible that the stress over this ordeal is what quicked the cancer development.
Just stating what I have been told, not saying it was deserved.
Just stating what I have been told, not saying it was deserved.
He was put in an impossibly tough situation, as he was told that his loyal adherent for 25+ years was raping kids from some 25 year old graduate assistant, which he never saw. faced with a situation somewhat similar, some of you condemning him may have acted in a similar manner. Report to your boss, and let it be. I AM NOT condoning anything that that scumbag Sandusky did, or even Joe Pa, I just believe that some should get off their high horse and realize that JoePa was a good man who made a horrible mistake. How would you like to do great things with your life, help countless people, and be only judged based on a singular bad thing that you did??
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
JoePa might've been a good man, but he certainly allowed evil upon children.
What if your child was raped? And after many years you found out people like Joe Paterno knew about it and did nothing? People standing up for Joe Paterno make me sick. He could have done something, but chose not too. I hope there is a hell, and he is burning it. Football is just a game. It in the grand aspect of life means nothing. He did nothing. NOTHING! Everyone involved that did nothing, deserves a horrible death.
