It is actually fun to come here again. How refreshing to have topics that stay on topic and don't turn into the same old arguments for the 100th time. Thanks for all of your work Jeremy. This is your site and you can run it how you see fit.
Jeremy a question please?
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Can I take those "Duhs" back? I KNEW those applaud and boo signs weren't there before. They are right beneath the karma sign, Ivanclone. If you can't see them, there must be a reason. I was unable to see them until I posted the original question, which was my fifth post, I believe.
I enjoyed discombobulated's opinions on everything. The guy must have been on her 24/7 to make that many posts. However, he was becoming a bore with all the negativity towards everyone and made us all think his opinion was the only one that mattered. If he is welcomed back, I think it should be with a very short leash.
I couldn't agree more with Jeremy. Discom's posts... had to go. His negative talk and discussions were not of any value to other ISU fans or athletic programs. Yes, they were his opinions, but I swear he was here to bring down ISU athletics.
Hopefully I didn't offend him by saying that he could be coach Morgan's new ball boyl at whatever shool he ends up at.
I did want to ask Discom if he would swap me his parkay seats for my 5th row balcony since he thought we are going to be so horrible for the next 10+ years.
Good job Jeremy.
Hopefully I didn't offend him by saying that he could be coach Morgan's new ball boyl at whatever shool he ends up at.
I did want to ask Discom if he would swap me his parkay seats for my 5th row balcony since he thought we are going to be so horrible for the next 10+ years.
Good job Jeremy.
Very good. Thanks Alan.
Great site, Jeremy!
On that Karma thing, someone else asked about it in the Shoutout box on your front page. So there are others with the same question.
What I see, for example, in the upper right on Alan's post is "Karma: +2/-1" but no Boo or Applause.
Great site, Jeremy!
On that Karma thing, someone else asked about it in the Shoutout box on your front page. So there are others with the same question.
What I see, for example, in the upper right on Alan's post is "Karma: +2/-1" but no Boo or Applause.
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I am glad he is gone... It's almost like the guy hates the Cyclones... I admit the first day GMAC was introduced I was a little bummed out... THe next day I decided to get behind GMAC and get pumped up again.. There is no reason to doubt the guy... His constant bickering about him made me sick and not even like reading any post where his drivel was...
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I just don't get that statement, "There is no reason to doubt the guy...". There are several very good (my opinion) reasons to doubt him. You might choose to overlook them or rationalize them, or look at things a different way, but there are reasons to doubt him, which I will continue to do until I see some evidence that he was a good choice for ISU.
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If you want to doubt him, that's ok, but at least be fair and give the guy a fighting chance. He deserves that much. He has a real challenge ahead and there will likely be some rough sledding this coming season, but I am very optimistic about the future of ISU basketball. GMac will be successful; the Clones will be successful!!!
P.S. I still think Discombobulated was really an incognito WM ;D
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I am glad he is gone... It's almost like the guy hates the Cyclones... I admit the first day GMAC was introduced I was a little bummed out... THe next day I decided to get behind GMAC and get pumped up again.. There is no reason to doubt the guy... His constant bickering about him made me sick and not even like reading any post where his drivel was...
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I just don't get that statement, "There is no reason to doubt the guy...". There are several very good (my opinion) reasons to doubt him. You might choose to overlook them or rationalize them, or look at things a different way, but there are reasons to doubt him, which I will continue to do until I see some evidence that he was a good choice for ISU.
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If you want to doubt him, that's ok, but at least be fair and give the guy a fighting chance. He deserves that much. He has a real challenge ahead and there will likely be some rough sledding this coming season, but I am very optimistic about the future of ISU basketball. GMac will be successful; the Clones will be successful!!!
P.S. I still think Discombobulated was really an incognito WM ;D
The manner in which he constantly bashed the basketball coaching staff made people defensive. It was a very aggressive way of instigating other posters and inciting negative reactions (also known as baiting, trolling, etc). He may not have been the first to call someone names, but his actions surely precipitated that result.
That said, I think he should be unbanned.
That said, I think he should be unbanned.
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Guess that discombulated debate has been cancelled till further notice. Karma rules.
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Yeah... nobody sent a message saying they wanted to do it anyway. Which, it isn't really that necessary anymore because, the whole reason I tried to start it up, was to reduce the name calling/personal attacks that had been going on a lot lately. I figured, in a debate, people could get their chances one on one to prove their point with facts or stats. I figured there wouldn't be any namecalling in a head to head debate and would be a nice community building event.
However, if people are still interested in starting a weekly debate. We could post a question, and the first two responders taking different sides could have the debate... and then institute a rating system where people give points for good arguments and what not... or have a way for people to say what side they are leaning toward and people can change their stance and then see which side won the debate at the end?
I dunno, I'll let Jeremy take charge of it though if people seem to be interested.
Guess that discombulated debate has been cancelled till further notice. Karma rules.
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Yeah... nobody sent a message saying they wanted to do it anyway. Which, it isn't really that necessary anymore because, the whole reason I tried to start it up, was to reduce the name calling/personal attacks that had been going on a lot lately. I figured, in a debate, people could get their chances one on one to prove their point with facts or stats. I figured there wouldn't be any namecalling in a head to head debate and would be a nice community building event.
However, if people are still interested in starting a weekly debate. We could post a question, and the first two responders taking different sides could have the debate... and then institute a rating system where people give points for good arguments and what not... or have a way for people to say what side they are leaning toward and people can change their stance and then see which side won the debate at the end?
I dunno, I'll let Jeremy take charge of it though if people seem to be interested.
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Good idea, it's actually one I'm working on. If you check back later today, it will make you give a reason for the rating
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I like this too... cuz lately my karma goes down once each post and I think I've been nice to both sides of each arguement. Maybe I just post too much so somebody doesn't like me. Who knows.
Good idea, it's actually one I'm working on. If you check back later today, it will make you give a reason for the rating
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I like this too... cuz lately my karma goes down once each post and I think I've been nice to both sides of each arguement. Maybe I just post too much so somebody doesn't like me. Who knows.
Yeah, if you post an opinion, you obviously get Karmafied.
Maybe we can do a % also suck +4/-10 is equal to 40%. Obviously the popular people are the ones who can do +5/-1 or 500%. That would make it look so we know who is more well thought of. Now watch me get Karmafied.
Discombwhatever made it up to +20/-60 or 33%. So he was only semi-replusive in his editorilizing. He certainly took a different slant on his version of how things were. Soime people use to call it pouty mouth.
So to recap: make the computer do the math and provide a %. Later on we could rank the best and the worst ratings.
Maybe we can do a % also suck +4/-10 is equal to 40%. Obviously the popular people are the ones who can do +5/-1 or 500%. That would make it look so we know who is more well thought of. Now watch me get Karmafied.
Discombwhatever made it up to +20/-60 or 33%. So he was only semi-replusive in his editorilizing. He certainly took a different slant on his version of how things were. Soime people use to call it pouty mouth.
So to recap: make the computer do the math and provide a %. Later on we could rank the best and the worst ratings.
Not that the karma thing is that big of a deal to me or anything, I'll live with my -13, soon to be worse... but a suggestion would maybe be to go back to what you were doing on the old site. You had a 10 star rating system. This way each person could only give you a rating once. Instead of getting -15 from one person who dislikes you, you'll only get that person's opinion once so it won't look like everybody on the site hates you. (most people seem to vote if they dislike a post rather than if they like it anyway). The only think different from the previous sites rating system would be to allow people to change their raking of you. They may change their mind after reading future posts.
Or leave it as it is, I really don't mind either way.
Or leave it as it is, I really don't mind either way.
I have no problems with anyone who wants to be "negative" I'm sure when football season rolls around I will be brutally honest in my assessment of Danny Mac, it just seems that every thread I've read with Dis. always turned into a mud slinging exhibition. You can be critical without being childish people. And Wes, it shouldn't matter how many negative reviews you have gotten. State your opinons in a non-personal way, and nobody will care.
Melkor, it isn't that he is preventing an alternative viewpoint that made him annoying, I for one welcome dissension. The guy just came on here looking to argue, and that was one of the reasons that I stopped posting. It was like if anyone said something was black, Dis. would say no it is white just to argue. I know people like that in my real life, and I don't talk to them either. We all have our own opinions, I don't see things the same as you do. That does not make me right and you wrong, and vice versa. If you are worried about your reputation on a chat board, then maybe you should address that within your personal life.
Now that Discom is gone, all of our karma ratings will likely improve
I'm excited as hell about GMac and the direction of the basketball program, yet my karma rating sucks. Go figure! ???
I'm excited as hell about GMac and the direction of the basketball program, yet my karma rating sucks. Go figure! ???
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Thanks, Jeremy. I certainly don't mind having someone who posts differing opinions, but when someone comes on the forum to simply highjack threads and make personal attacks on others that disagree with his opinions, then he needs to go. I admit I was one of the 50 that complained yesterday. Once he stooped to name-calling without adding anything to the conversation and inerrupting every thread with his hateful rants, it was time for him to leave the forum.
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I never saw discombobulated start the name-calling. He might have fired back at people, but I never same his start calling people names out of the blue. Could you please provide an example of when he initiated a case of name-calling?
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I was going to copy and paste an example, but it's no longer there so I suspect it was deleted by the moderators after I complained. In the thread concerning Baylor being chosen for the NIT I asked disombobulated if he would please keep his negative posts about ISU in the appropriate threads. His reply was that I was a "dumbass". Although I've disagreed with his opinions, I've never attacked him, nor insulted him. This is definitely an example of a time when he initiated a case of name-calling.
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Thanks, Jeremy. I certainly don't mind having someone who posts differing opinions, but when someone comes on the forum to simply highjack threads and make personal attacks on others that disagree with his opinions, then he needs to go. I admit I was one of the 50 that complained yesterday. Once he stooped to name-calling without adding anything to the conversation and inerrupting every thread with his hateful rants, it was time for him to leave the forum.
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I never saw discombobulated start the name-calling. He might have fired back at people, but I never same his start calling people names out of the blue. Could you please provide an example of when he initiated a case of name-calling?
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I was going to copy and paste an example, but it's no longer there so I suspect it was deleted by the moderators after I complained. In the thread concerning Baylor being chosen for the NIT I asked disombobulated if he would please keep his negative posts about ISU in the appropriate threads. His reply was that I was a "dumbass". Although I've disagreed with his opinions, I've never attacked him, nor insulted him. This is definitely an example of a time when he initiated a case of name-calling.
The thing is some of these boos are ridiculous. I've read the comments. Of my two boos, one booed me as a "test," then put a ;-) after "test," and the other guy booed me because he remembers me from another board, not because of something I said here. At least be fair about it.
I am working on a revised karma feature set that makes it easier to keep the boos under control. After people get done playing around with the Karma feature, I will reset all the scores and put the new limitations in place to help keep things more accurate Thanks for being patient as I work on the site's feature-set.
Thanks for being patient as I work on the site's feature-set.OK, I can see the buttons now.
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Karma: +22/-7
[applaud] [boo]
But, I question whether someone who has never posted is able to.
If that is not your intent, you may want to test it some yourself, or ask others here to respond if the problem is system specific. It is hard for me to believe you wouldn't want everyone to use this feature. Most people probably post at some point, but many don't. To me the results would seem a little skewed if they didn't include the entire audience.
More generally, I agree that you need some adjustments. It wouldn't be surprising though to see people with strong opinions to elicit both high positives and high negatives in any case. It can't be helped at times, but it also gets back to the idea of treating others with respect. It can give you an idea also of whether you are making a persuasive argument, but I hope people don't feel they have to think or worry about this feature too much.
Surely, most Cyclone fans have positive karma. ;D
For example:
Karma: +22/-7
[applaud] [boo]
But, I question whether someone who has never posted is able to.
If that is not your intent, you may want to test it some yourself, or ask others here to respond if the problem is system specific. It is hard for me to believe you wouldn't want everyone to use this feature. Most people probably post at some point, but many don't. To me the results would seem a little skewed if they didn't include the entire audience.
More generally, I agree that you need some adjustments. It wouldn't be surprising though to see people with strong opinions to elicit both high positives and high negatives in any case. It can't be helped at times, but it also gets back to the idea of treating others with respect. It can give you an idea also of whether you are making a persuasive argument, but I hope people don't feel they have to think or worry about this feature too much.
Surely, most Cyclone fans have positive karma. ;D
