Jamie Pollard preaches "Doomsday" about College Athletics and the NIL

ElijahMoore

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NIL would have been fine unlimited pay for play with no gaurdrails has been a disaster.
The 20 million payroll is going to be a heck of a hardship for a school with budgetary constraints like ISU IMO.
Yea the idea is good, and it feels like people auto-gravitate towards approving of NIL because they assume that big-college is just out for money. So you have to peel back these layers to even attempt to spread the message.
 

CySmurf

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F that. The cost of a college education was already growing at an unsustainable rate. Now you are asking dirt broke 21 year old kids to take out even bigger loans just so the 3rd string wide receiver can buy a beamer? Yeah, hard pass.

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I present to you exhibit A: Jaime Pollard's bitter student.
 
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Are we at the minimum number?
I think we are 4 over the total but at the minimum number of men's sports. I think we could cut one women's sport and still be Title IX compliant but the new roster limits make that a much grayer area than it used to be. I suspect we can't go to the full football limit (105?) even with the current offered sports.
 

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Yes, but Title 9 regulations for sports work a little differently. The university doesn't have to ensure a gender balance of faculty and staff like they have to do with athletic scholarships. They aren't balancing the male dominant comp sci department with the FCS program. Once all these athletes become employees, it is a different role than what they have been. And when all these schools are trying to make up millions in deficits, finding a way to get out of paying salaries for olympic sports, men and women, are going to look very appealing.
No, but those other jobs are all jobs that could reasonably be filled by men or women. If they create a class of jobs that are going to explicitly be men, that’s going to a problem in my opinion. Hard to say until it happens and courts rule, but I think they’ll run into some legal problems with this approach. But you could be right if the employee pool is reasonably balanced they might be ruled OK.
 

kirk89gt

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1,000s of lawyers and multiple years of negotiations over the last several decades has given us:

NFL - salary caps, small market teams can compete
NBA - sort of salary caps, can go over and pay a tax, teams can sign their own players to larger contracts vs players going elsewhere
MLB - no salary caps, small mkt teams along for the ride, big market teams pay 3x vs everyone else.

No idea if college athletics will ever get any of those 3 models.
Seems to me at present we are on a trajectory to be more like MLB at this time with the “haves” and the “have a lot less than” the haves.
 

kirk89gt

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Am I the only one who doesn’t give a s**t if it all collapses? It’s all greed, and I really don’t care anymore.
While I still care quite a bit, as I have gotten older in addition to this NIL mess, I find myself caring less and less. Now I haven’t reached the point where I have stopped writing checks, but I am at least a couple steps closer in that direction.
 

Kinch

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Significant. It shocked me what Jr 89gt’s fees were a semester……..$1200. Another 300 on top of that doesn’t sound extremely painful but how in the heck did it get to $1200?
Kinda like the frog in a boiling pot. The story I read is Virginia tech studentd paying for a little more than half of the house settlement.
 

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On Wisconsin
Am I the only one who doesn’t give a s**t if it all collapses? It’s all greed, and I really don’t care anymore.
I wouldn’t say I am all the way there, but there is a part of me that kind of wishes they would spin off the teams completely from the universities and say the athletes didn’t need to be students (both red lines to me) so that I could kill off my interest. I’d still be sad, but there would also be a bit of relief because I’m no longer losing interest little by little.
 

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Kinda like the frog in a boiling pot. The story I read is Virginia tech studentd paying for a little more than half of the house settlement.
The biggest friction point I see in all this is you have a historically not for profit entity trying to play in a quasi for-profit world or model and it seems like they wanna have the best of both worlds when those two worlds don’t play well together and philosophically those two worlds are diametrically opposed.

No business model, that I am aware of can have sustainable success with two main revenue generators, and the rest of their departments being loss leaders that “balance” the budget.

If we’re gonna treat this like a for-profit entity, there isn’t a budget to balance, there is a P&L to manage and you’re either making money or you’re losing money.

It was mentioned in that podcast with Blum on the morning rush and I think it’s true. College sports is just way too big for the model of where we’re going and I think it’s survival will depend on shrinking to fit the new rules of the game.
 
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Elijah, that was an incredible interview! I've seen a lot of content with Jamie on sports junkie type podcasts/radio spots, but I appreciated the different angle you came from when laying the foundation of who Jamie is, and how he describes his role within the University ecosystem. I feel like it would have been interesting even if I didn't like sports. And at the same time, there was plenty of new things in there that would keep diehard fans engaged too.

As others have alluded too, I hadn't heard the bit about ISU fully funding rev share for 2 years before this, so great job getting that scoop. Even though the future is scary, it feels good to know we have at least a couple years of high level competition ahead of us.

Keep doing what you're doing Elijah, because it's great!
 

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JTS question: The capacity says 61,500. Does that include every possible Hill Side seat they sell? Or is the 61,500 separate and the hill side seats are additional?

If the hillside seats are additional, what is the max # seats of those that they will sell?
 

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Once the SEC, B1G and ESPN have destroyed college sports, How soon until they turn on each other and start kicking out the Northwesterns, Vanderbilts, Hoks, Gophers and other dead weight?
 

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Once the SEC, B1G and ESPN have destroyed college sports, How soon until they turn on each other and start kicking out the Northwesterns, Vanderbilts, Hoks, Gophers and other dead weight?
Oh, it will happen. Remember the Big 10 ‘Leaders and Legends’ fiasco. They’ll bring it back, only as ‘Legends and Dead Weight’.
 

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JTS question: The capacity says 61,500. Does that include every possible Hill Side seat they sell? Or is the 61,500 separate and the hill side seats are additional?

If the hillside seats are additional, what is the max # seats of those that they will sell?

It's everybody. One of the things that happened early in JP's tenure was to count hillside in the official capacity.
 
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