FYI, Sandro Mamukelashvili is currently averaging 10.9 PPG.
FYI, Sandro Mamukelashvili is currently averaging 10.9 PPG.
Lmao, didn’t you honestly think it would be after watching the way we looked?
A little late to the party here, but I think ISU's roster is P6, it's just that it's made up of what I'd consider P6 role players.
Haliburton, even as our "alpha" if you want to call him that, would be the #2 or #3 option on a lot of P6 teams (scoring). He'd be a facilitator on a decent P6, a floor general so to speak. He's getting a lot of square peg round hole treatment being on this ISU team.
Bolton, a good with potential to be great player I think, worthy of starting on a mid-tier P6 and below team. He'd probably be a 6th man or rotational guard on the upper echelon P6's this year. He's a sophomore, so I think he'll be develop into a great player before it's all said and done.
Nixon, is a P6 talent in a role, not a starter. He's a plus defender and a guy that shouldn't be allowed to shoot. I compare him to a guy TT had last year, Brandon Francis. If he is trying to do too much, he's a liability, but if he's buying into his role, he is a P6 talent for sure. Harder to hide his shortcomings on a team that's lacking compared to that TT team last year.
Conditt, he is P6 now and will only get better. Until he proves he can start consistently/gets the chance to, he's probably considered back up level P6 player
Solo/Mike, I'll lump them together because I think they're both limited, but like Nixon, I think if they buy into a specific role, they'd be at worst rotational dudes on most P6 teams. Our problem is we need one of them to start most times. They'd both start for about any mid major team I would think.
Jackson/Grill, much too early to tell, but the best way I think to currently describe them would be that they have P6 potential, but are playing like mid major talent (or even worse) because they are so green. Time will tell, but I'm optimistic, if not hopeful.
Lewis, I guess you could argue is mid major talent until he proves it consistently at the P6 level. Hoping he gets a shot down the stretch here before Big 12 play starts.
Griffin, sigh, looking like mid major talent sadly. Time still for him to prove the doubters wrong, but certainly mid-major category for now.
So by my tally:
P6 starting caliber - Haliburton, Bolton
P6 rotational/Mid Major starter - Conditt, Nixon, Young, Jacobson
P6 deep bench/Mid Major bench - Jackson, Grill, Lewis,Griffin
So I suppose in a sense, it's close. I think we are just a talent-challenged P6 team comprised of nice role players, and next to no special players/play makers. The type of team that can make the NIT.
Haliburton, even as our "alpha" if you want to call him that, would be the #2 or #3 option on a lot of P6 teams (scoring). He'd be a facilitator on a decent P6, a floor general so to speak. He's getting a lot of square peg round hole treatment being on this ISU team.
Bolton, a good with potential to be great player I think, worthy of starting on a mid-tier P6 and below team. He'd probably be a 6th man or rotational guard on the upper echelon P6's this year. He's a sophomore, so I think he'll be develop into a great player before it's all said and done.
Nixon, is a P6 talent in a role, not a starter. He's a plus defender and a guy that shouldn't be allowed to shoot. I compare him to a guy TT had last year, Brandon Francis. If he is trying to do too much, he's a liability, but if he's buying into his role, he is a P6 talent for sure. Harder to hide his shortcomings on a team that's lacking compared to that TT team last year.
Conditt, he is P6 now and will only get better. Until he proves he can start consistently/gets the chance to, he's probably considered back up level P6 player
Solo/Mike, I'll lump them together because I think they're both limited, but like Nixon, I think if they buy into a specific role, they'd be at worst rotational dudes on most P6 teams. Our problem is we need one of them to start most times. They'd both start for about any mid major team I would think.
Jackson/Grill, much too early to tell, but the best way I think to currently describe them would be that they have P6 potential, but are playing like mid major talent (or even worse) because they are so green. Time will tell, but I'm optimistic, if not hopeful.
Lewis, I guess you could argue is mid major talent until he proves it consistently at the P6 level. Hoping he gets a shot down the stretch here before Big 12 play starts.
Griffin, sigh, looking like mid major talent sadly. Time still for him to prove the doubters wrong, but certainly mid-major category for now.
So by my tally:
P6 starting caliber - Haliburton, Bolton
P6 rotational/Mid Major starter - Conditt, Nixon, Young, Jacobson
P6 deep bench/Mid Major bench - Jackson, Grill, Lewis,Griffin
So I suppose in a sense, it's close. I think we are just a talent-challenged P6 team comprised of nice role players, and next to no special players/play makers. The type of team that can make the NIT.
Okay hold on.. You're saying Tyrese Halliburton is a P6 talent right now, yet is considered a top PG in the nation and is a potential lottery pick?
Ya anyone saying halliburton who will be an AA is not a p5 star is not using their brain
He IS P6. That is what I said. I think it is fair to question if he can fill the role effectively, that this team needs. An alpha dog. Talent is one thing, mentality is another.
I can’t tell because you guys are constantly trying to out douche each other, but you don’t think Iowa State is going to wind up in the top 75?
Do you watch a lot of college bball in general? Post away in the regular season thread too if you do. That doesnt get enough traction.
I usually have games on for background noise vs watching some talent/singing show.
To me ISU has talent. They're just kind of putting a square peg in a round hole on the offensive end. Halliburton probably needs to be more assertive and hoist up a ton of shots and a guy like Nixon needs to defer a little more. Get the post more involved in the offense. A little too perimeter oriented at the moment.
The defense can be good
This is actually really good. ISU needs to put more pressure on the rim and has the guys to do it
Should have been doing it more against Iowa! Rasir and Hali should've been able to drive at will. I was yelling at the TV when Haliburton had Garza guarding him at the top and he didn't really even attempt to drive on him!
You didnt answer my question. I'm not arguing, I'm just saying if you watch bball you should post in the 2019 NCAA thread too.
Young with Jordan on him on the baseline hoisting up a 15 ft jump shot was the most perplexing play of the night. I was was like "oh ****" and then WTF?
Mostly just watch Iowa, B1G, and an occasional ISU game. Don't really watch anything else till tournament time. Have no idea about the other B12 teams.
