Iowa Football Recruiting

[Statefan10]

During this time frame, Iowa has done the same things if not more of them than ISU is all I am saying, so I am not seeing the momentum and hype. Attention yes, and it is deserved, but that is not hype that is respect. And I respect the hell out of ISU and Campbell right now.

I wouldn't say that during the time frame of three years Coach Campbell and Coach Ferentz have done the same things when looking at the specifics. Disregarding H2H matchups, Coach Campbell is 5-8 against top 25 opponents. He's beaten three top 10 teams, two of them being top 5. Two of his five ranked victories have been done on the road. Four of the eight ranked losses he has suffered came in his first year as head coach.

In the last three years, Kirk Ferentz is 4-7 against top 25 opponents. He's beaten two top 10 teams, two of them being in the top 5. None of those ranked victories have come on the road. The overlying difference between these three seasons by both coaches is that for Coach Campbell those were his 1st, 2nd, and 3rd seasons at Iowa State. It was year 18, 19, and 20 for Ferentz at Iowa.

 

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[BillBrasky4Cy]

Recruiting, it would be a wash though. And I am saying it regarding national attention. It will be a what have you done for me lately thing and ISU will fall back if they have another above average season instead of a huge 10-2 type year.

This is an extremely dumb take.

 

[Statefan10]

This is an extremely dumb take.

Yeah if we would win 9 games I guess that's just "above average".

 

[iahawks]

Yeah if we would win 9 games I guess that's just "above average".

Well Iowa did win 9 games last year and felt just barely above average.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Well Iowa did win 9 games last year and felt just barely above average.

LOL go back and revisit Iowa's schedule and who they beat... There's a reason it felt average... Iowa didn't beat single B1G team that had a .500 record...

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

Well Iowa did win 9 games last year and felt just barely above average.

Agreed. Playing that high school level schedule, 9 wins is pretty pathetic.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Agreed. Playing that high school level schedule, 9 wins is pretty pathetic.

 

[Statefan10]

Well Iowa did win 9 games last year and felt just barely above average.

That's because you guys didn't have a ranked victory and only good win was against Iowa State. Beating Miss. State in the bowl game saved Iowa and their fans from calling for Kirk's head. Iowa fans think that they should be winning 10, 11, 12 games a year, when in reality, 7, 8 ,9, is the more likely outcome.

 

[CyTwins]

Well Iowa did win 9 games last year and felt just barely above average.

That's because you play in the Big Ten West

 

[Thinker]

I think the difference is, in those publications/predictions its more of a ho-hum, Iowa is back in the top half of the 25. where as ISUs are more like "I know, you're as shocked as I am that I'm writing this" stuff. The verbage is a little bit more welcome to "hype" than Iowa just being Iowa again. If that makes sense.

So I guess a welcome to the club is in order? IDK. I think it is kind of

This is an extremely dumb take.

If Nebraska makes the big 10 title game and ISU finishes 4 or 5 in the big 12, who will get more attention?

 

[Thinker]

I wouldn't say that during the time frame of three years Coach Campbell and Coach Ferentz have done the same things when looking at the specifics. Disregarding H2H matchups, Coach Campbell is 5-8 against top 25 opponents. He's beaten three top 10 teams, two of them being top 5. Two of his five ranked victories have been done on the road. Four of the eight ranked losses he has suffered came in his first year as head coach.

In the last three years, Kirk Ferentz is 4-7 against top 25 opponents. He's beaten two top 10 teams, two of them being in the top 5. None of those ranked victories have come on the road. The overlying difference between these three seasons by both coaches is that for Coach Campbell those were his 1st, 2nd, and 3rd seasons at Iowa State. It was year 18, 19, and 20 for Ferentz at Iowa.

Why disregard head to head? Why not add in bowl game victories, draft picks, award winners, etc.?

 

[Thinker]

That's because you play in the Big Ten West

The west is going to be good this year.

 

[Thinker]

That's because you guys didn't have a ranked victory and only good win was against Iowa State. Beating Miss. State in the bowl game saved Iowa and their fans from calling for Kirk's head. Iowa fans think that they should be winning 10, 11, 12 games a year, when in reality, 7, 8 ,9, is the more likely outcome.

Miss. State was ranked

 

[Thinker]

Sweet pic from 2015... to bad after osu he said they are not anymore, but carry on

 

[Thinker]

Agreed. Playing that high school level schedule, 9 wins is pretty pathetic.

Still waiting for you to explain why.

 

[Thinker]

Yeah if we would win 9 games I guess that's just "above average".

If you are on they upper end and have the hype. 9-4 is an average year.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

So I guess a welcome to the club is in order? IDK. I think it is kind of


If Nebraska makes the big 10 title game and ISU finishes 4 or 5 in the big 12, who will get more attention?

Nebraska would obviously get more attention but I'm really confused where you are going with this. It would literally have zero bearing on the national status of CMC or the Iowa State football program and what it has to sell moving forward.

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

Still waiting for you to explain why.

I don't really feel the need to explain anything to you.

 

[srjclone]

So I guess a welcome to the club is in order? IDK. I think it is kind of

I was just trying to clarify why there may seemingly be more "hype" around Iowa State in comparison to Iowa