I feel like it’s closer to comparing apples to a crescent wrench.
INSIDER: Some nuggets on the open OC spot
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Manning was very new to the play calling thing, wasn't he?
And I'm not so sure those play calls were always great. There was a tendency to go away from what was working, or to not fix what wasn't working, in crucial moments last year.
Maybe he can look at some of the expert play callers on twitter or CF forums.
I'm only nervous because Campbell has already lost Candle and now Manning. How many times can he promote from within replacing each coach with an equal caliber coach?
Hopefully at least 3 times...
Hopefully at least 3 times...
Man I'm not worried about this at all.
It's a system thing. It's Campbell's system.
FWIW: I loved Tom Manning. Hope he's a future head coach at Iowa State. He's big time. HOWEVER, this late in the game, I'd much rather keep this in house to keep a good thing going. Campbell called half the plays the last two years anyways. I think because we are Iowa State fans, we just tend to overthink things.
If there was some home run hire out there to make, I'm sure Matt would make it. But this guy is all about culture. I know he admires how Kirk has kept his staff in tact over all those years. I think he wants to do the same thing.
It's a system thing. It's Campbell's system.
FWIW: I loved Tom Manning. Hope he's a future head coach at Iowa State. He's big time. HOWEVER, this late in the game, I'd much rather keep this in house to keep a good thing going. Campbell called half the plays the last two years anyways. I think because we are Iowa State fans, we just tend to overthink things.
If there was some home run hire out there to make, I'm sure Matt would make it. But this guy is all about culture. I know he admires how Kirk has kept his staff in tact over all those years. I think he wants to do the same thing.
If Campbell wasn't a former OC and o-line coach I would be nervous.
Also, Manning wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire as an OC. I like him a lot and think he has an extremely bright future, but there were some growing pains over the last two seasons.
Also, Manning wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire as an OC. I like him a lot and think he has an extremely bright future, but there were some growing pains over the last two seasons.
He lost Candle?
To answer your question, an endless amount of times. Any transition has risk, but good head coaches are generally good at identifying good assistants. He’s not picking blindfolded. Given where his assistants are going he’s good at stocking his staff.
Do you know who David Montgomery is? I'll hang up and listen.
Perhaps, but that is a development aspect and the season is less than 7 months away.
The difference in performance next year between Myer + CMC running things and Manning isn’t great.
Changing to an OC outside the system is just out of the question right now. We are pretty close to spring ball, and learning all new terminology, the players finding their new niches, etc. Only answer is to share the responsibility with Campbell until someone else can take the reins. Pretty much what we had with Manning. Not that Manning wasn't a great coach, he was, but I think the system is bigger than one bright star.
I am just concerned that ISU is putting a lot of very young guys into critical positions. CMC is the coach and in the end this could be a career make or break move, and he is well aware of how fast the momentum from last year can disappear.
Well, hiring seasoned veterans like Mangino wasn't exactly a career booster, so going young is fine by me.
Last year was just a part of the foundation, not the ultimate goal. The amount of wins was ahead of schedule and this next season might be more similar.
Systems are fine, great actually. But that is not going to keep a defense off balance. A play caller with the ability to push buttons on the fly in the heat of battle can. Not all football coaches can call a game. I have a friend who coaches college football (D3) and there is a lot of good coaches that can't feel their way through a game very well, it to fast for them, to hectic.
The difference is CMC is an offensive coach. He can bring someone in or promote someone who thinks similar to how he does and teach them the ropes. That would also give him the ability to call plays as he sees fit in a game.
Or he is damn good at hiring assistants and they go on to better things. That is a good thing and says a lot about Campbell.
Do you hear (m)any offensive coordinator publicly campaigning to be ISU's new hire? I will hang up and listen.
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