Prohm will be judged on his 1st year much more than the typical P5 coach would be judged in his 1st year. For the simple reason that one of the major criteria that that was used to evaluate candidates was the the ability of the candidate to do something with the current roster.
Impression of Coach Prohm thus far?
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He is doing a great job! Games like last night the fact that you have "leaders" like Niang with no urgency and randomly throwing the ball away is not on him. He can't force guys to make free throws also. Players need to step up.
I like Coach Prohm as a person and feel hes an excellent representative for our University and I feel he will be a very successful coach at ISU. We're 2/3's of the way through his first season - I'll wait a while longer to get more input on evaluating his performance and is leadership qualities.
Burton has the best defensive efficiency rating on the team in conference play... Stop saying he isn't getting minutes bc of defense. He also had the best rating by far last night.
Prohm is grading out about a C right now. he has never coached anywhere near this level and it shows at times. He can improve but right now this team is headed for a really disappointing season and therefore he won't get much time after this year. He needs to be exceed expectations next year or people will be wanting him gone.
Meanwhile Fran is going to get the Hawks a #1 seed with less talented team
Prohm is grading out about a C right now. he has never coached anywhere near this level and it shows at times. He can improve but right now this team is headed for a really disappointing season and therefore he won't get much time after this year. He needs to be exceed expectations next year or people will be wanting him gone.
Meanwhile Fran is going to get the Hawks a #1 seed with less talented team
Burton would be getting minutes for Niang, Nader, and McKay. The drop off in defense isn't as big as you're acting like. And not those guys at their peak, but when they're too tired to follow their man anyway.
The funny thing is people act like Hoiberg is some god or something. He's not. He got us to 1 whopping sweet 16. I will let Prohm get his own guys in before I judge him.
B2B Big12 champs. I agree with majority you had to say but Fred took us from the bottom to the top of the BIg12, not easy.
Attitude is a hard thing to teach.
This team is experienced, but they're really not as athletic as a lot of teams, so this season is fine so far.
Per any narrative that the team walks all over him and their response to him is not hustling/getting back...if that's really the case, they deserve every ounce of losses like last night.
If someone like McKay has NBA in his sites, and has some attitude, he's going to struggle when he's even more replaceable.
The calls in the 1st half were tough, but it's not like they didn't have a 7 point lead at one point, and a 4 point lead with the ball with a couple of minutes or so left, and I hardly doubt Prohm's directions on things like in-bounding the ball were to panic and try to force isolation.
This team is experienced, but they're really not as athletic as a lot of teams, so this season is fine so far.
Per any narrative that the team walks all over him and their response to him is not hustling/getting back...if that's really the case, they deserve every ounce of losses like last night.
If someone like McKay has NBA in his sites, and has some attitude, he's going to struggle when he's even more replaceable.
The calls in the 1st half were tough, but it's not like they didn't have a 7 point lead at one point, and a 4 point lead with the ball with a couple of minutes or so left, and I hardly doubt Prohm's directions on things like in-bounding the ball were to panic and try to force isolation.
He came into a rough, difficult situation. Yes, the talent was there, but so was a team used to a coach who was idolized here by many, and who in most eyes simply could do no wrong. Expectations were off the chart for this team. Unfortunately, and for a number of reasons, the recruiting had not been strong for the last couple of years, so this team lacked much talented depth. Then to top it off, right before the conference season started, he loses a starter for the rest of the season, a player who arguably was the main glue guy on the team, and maybe the heart and soul of the team especially during any adversity. On top of all that, he was now coaching in arguably the best college basketball conference (top to bottom) in the country.
I'm not sure any coach could have done a better job. Coach K, Roy Williams or Bill Self were not available. I think Prohm has done well considering what he had to handle. I wish he would have played some of the reserves more with the first team in the easy non-conference games to try and develop some depth, and I wish he would have asserted his coaching a little more earlier in the process, but at this point, we just have to trust his judgement on those things. I think maybe at the start he was very concerned about "rocking the boat", and in hindsight, maybe a little bit of that was needed.
For whatever reason, this team lacks consistency. That should not happen to a team starting 3 seniors and 2 juniors, at least one of which is an all-american. It should also not happen to a team that lost to UAB in the first round of the NCAA, and has blown more games in the last couple of years than any of us are willing to admit. You would think with a veteran team like this, the focus would be there nearly every game, but clearly with this team it is not. No way should a team beat top 5 teams in OU and KU at home, and then lose to the likes of Baylor and WVU at home. Two (and nearly 3) home losses at this point in the season with a talented, veteran team like this one is unacceptable to put it mildly. After every loss, the players say the right things and commit to improvement and fixing what is wrong, but it is not happening, as we have all seen.
I'm not going to give a grade to Prohm. I think he has done nearly as well as could be expected from anyone. I don't think we will really be able to grade him for a couple of years, when he has gotten his recruits in there, and has implemented his program and his style of play.
The players on the other hand, and their execution..................
I'm not sure any coach could have done a better job. Coach K, Roy Williams or Bill Self were not available. I think Prohm has done well considering what he had to handle. I wish he would have played some of the reserves more with the first team in the easy non-conference games to try and develop some depth, and I wish he would have asserted his coaching a little more earlier in the process, but at this point, we just have to trust his judgement on those things. I think maybe at the start he was very concerned about "rocking the boat", and in hindsight, maybe a little bit of that was needed.
For whatever reason, this team lacks consistency. That should not happen to a team starting 3 seniors and 2 juniors, at least one of which is an all-american. It should also not happen to a team that lost to UAB in the first round of the NCAA, and has blown more games in the last couple of years than any of us are willing to admit. You would think with a veteran team like this, the focus would be there nearly every game, but clearly with this team it is not. No way should a team beat top 5 teams in OU and KU at home, and then lose to the likes of Baylor and WVU at home. Two (and nearly 3) home losses at this point in the season with a talented, veteran team like this one is unacceptable to put it mildly. After every loss, the players say the right things and commit to improvement and fixing what is wrong, but it is not happening, as we have all seen.
I'm not going to give a grade to Prohm. I think he has done nearly as well as could be expected from anyone. I don't think we will really be able to grade him for a couple of years, when he has gotten his recruits in there, and has implemented his program and his style of play.
The players on the other hand, and their execution..................
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You can already see the McDermott narrative forming around Prohm. He needs at least 5 years to get "his guys" in the program. Meanwhile Matt Campbell probably just turned in ISU's highest ranked recruiting class ever without coaching a game.
He's doing fine. This year is an impossible spot for him, trying to fulfill lofty expectations with a group of players he's never coached before.
For everyone on the ledge, consider that this team is coming off a brutal stretch where they played four top fifteen teams in the last six games, and went 4-2. I'm not making excuses, but I think fatigue was a huge factor for them last night. The schedule eases up slightly in the immediate future. Try to keep an open mind and let's see where the team is in March. These meltdowns are absurd.
For everyone on the ledge, consider that this team is coming off a brutal stretch where they played four top fifteen teams in the last six games, and went 4-2. I'm not making excuses, but I think fatigue was a huge factor for them last night. The schedule eases up slightly in the immediate future. Try to keep an open mind and let's see where the team is in March. These meltdowns are absurd.
Don't we have to say Incomplete at this point?
Tough to grade on a partial year. But have to admit the thrill is a little gone.
Tough to grade on a partial year. But have to admit the thrill is a little gone.
How many games has Campbell won as head coach of the Cyclones? Don't get me wrong, I'm very excited about him, but Prohm has beat some top 5 ranked teams. Those teams ran McDermott out of the gym.
So your response to this thread is "Prohm doesn't know what he is doing" is that accurate?
