IF Bulaga is out....Advantage Iowa?

[Clark]

You are right in a sense IcSyU. It doesn't make a guy faster, stronger and more athletic.

But the human mind -- and human emotions -- are incredible things. I ridicule some Iowa fans when they say "Iowa players came out flat." I would assume they mean they played unispired and without emotion.

But why would that matter if they are fast, strong and athletic to begin with? Why would it matter for Iowa, or any team for that matter, to be "charged up" for the game if emotions weren't part of the game itself?

My psychology lesson for the day.:wink:

+1

Just like when some of you say that when Iowa beats Florida and LSU that it is because they don't want to be there...

Teams sometimes come out flat, it happens. Sometimes teams come out harder than they ever have before for various reasons. Emotion is a big part of football.

 

[Cyrocks]

Emotional impact doesn't make you better though. I'm guessing the correlation between emotions and playing level are nearly 0. Places like ESPN are wayyyyy too quick to say, "Well, that was a very emotional game for _____." Like in Mac's last game when we beat Missouri, maybe, just maybe we were the better team that day. Everyone knowing it was Mac's last game didn't automatically make them all faster, stronger, and more athletic. Likewise, they don't play with that in the backs of their minds. They are there to play football.

I see your point.

However, I can't imagine any players on any team playing a football game devoid of emotion.

Athletic talent is the main reason why players are successful on the field, no doubt about it (sorry Dan Mac:wink. However, I have a hard time believing players simply take the field in a robot-like fashion and win games that way.

 

[Clark]

Emotional impact doesn't make you better though. I'm guessing the correlation between emotions and playing level are nearly 0. Places like ESPN are wayyyyy too quick to say, "Well, that was a very emotional game for _____." Like in Mac's last game when we beat Missouri, maybe, just maybe we were the better team that day. Everyone knowing it was Mac's last game didn't automatically make them all faster, stronger, and more athletic. Likewise, they don't play with that in the backs of their minds. They are there to play football.

True it doesn't make you a better team but I think it can make you play better (or worse). Sometimes it's just the belief that it will make you play better that actually helps you.

 

[Cydkar]

I don't buy into the emotional win crap. Just because you know you're down a guy doesn't just make you faster, stronger, and more athletic.

+100000. Iowa without Bulaga is not as good. It's that simple. It could be the one assignment that is missed by Reiff that Bulaga wouldn't have that turns the game.

 

[nj829]

Didn't Iowa go 3-8 in 1998 or something like that? I don't think you can completely relate ISU winning that game to Cortez's letter vs. the fact Iowa plain stunk that year.

 

[DaddyMac]

+1

Just like when some of you say that when Iowa beats Florida and LSU that it is because they don't want to be there...

Teams sometimes come out flat, it happens. Sometimes teams come out harder than they ever have before for various reasons. Emotion is a big part of football.

Such a loss could put them into a downward spiral of dispair too. Emotion runs both ways - particularly in health matters.

I doubt there's much of an emotional gain or loss in this. (what is/was his condition? All the best to him). But if he's a veteran and is as good as some make him out to be - you have to think that missing a cog in a group that needs cohession, his loss will be felt.

At the same time, iowa is known for great line play. I'm sure they have somebody who's at least adequate.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

You are right in a sense IcSyU. It doesn't make a guy faster, stronger and more athletic.

But the human mind -- and human emotions -- are incredible things. I ridicule some Iowa fans when they say "Iowa players came out flat." I would assume they mean they played unispired and without emotion.

But why would that matter if they are fast, strong and athletic to begin with? Why would it matter for Iowa, or any team for that matter, to be "charged up" for the game if emotions weren't part of the game itself?

My psychology lesson for the day.:wink:

It only makes a difference from an effort standpoint. A wr looking to get an extra block or peeling back to throw a Michael Wagner type crushing block on a defender, a defensive lineman rather then just trying to be a road block getting up the field and creating a little more pressure then normal, a running back looking to initiate contact and run a defender over rather then trying to dance around them, etc....

The only danger of that emotional high is a lack of focus that can sneak up, wr's dropping easy catches because they want to make a big play so they take their eye off of the ball, defenders too amped up trying to make a big hit getting nailed for a late hit on the qb, or personal fouls, etc....

I think in terms of emotion in this rivalry the edge almost always belongs to Iowa State as the underdog. Our team seems to control those emotions the best and always seems more prepared then the hawks.

 

[A-town Cy]

Next man in!!

The great story on that next man in;

Riley Reiff Arrested in Iowa City | KSFY.com - Your Source for News, Sports, and Weather - Sioux Falls, South Dakota 57104 | Sports Headlines

 

[Clark]

Such a loss could put them into a downward spiral of dispair too. Emotion runs both ways - particularly in health matters.

I doubt there's much of an emotional gain or loss in this. (what is/was his conditions - all the best to him). But if he's a veteran and is as good as some make him out to be - you have to think that missing a cog in a group that needs cohession, his loss will be felt.

At the same time, iowa is known for great line play. I'm sure they have somebody who's at least adequate.

Agree with everything. It's hard to predict how people will take news like that (had it been serious)

Now that we're pretty sure it isn't serious, the emotional impact will be zero, but the impact of him not being in the lineup will obviously be felt. Will it affect the outcome? Probably not, but it will at least make it a little harder for Iowa to win.

 

[The_Architect]

The great story on that next man in;

Riley Reiff Arrested in Iowa City | KSFY.com - Your Source for News, Sports, and Weather - Sioux Falls, South Dakota 57104 | Sports Headlines

Whoah, when did that happen? :biglaugh:

 

[Clark]

The great story on that next man in;

Riley Reiff Arrested in Iowa City | KSFY.com - Your Source for News, Sports, and Weather - Sioux Falls, South Dakota 57104 | Sports Headlines

Is he the next man in or will Dace move over to LT?

 

[A-town Cy]

Is he the next man in or will Dace move over to LT?

You would know that more than me, I just saw Reiff is behind Bulaga on the depth chart.

 

[Stumpy]

Whoah, when did that happen? :biglaugh:

Last summer. But to be fair, who among us hasn't stripped in an Iowa City alleyway and then tried to escape police by running through the kitchen of Pita Pit? I rest my case.

 

[rosebowliowa]

Bulaga now officially out due to illness.

Doesn't affect this game. Iowa was always going to lose. Actually, the only way this changes the game is if Iowa rallies around it and finds a way to win.

I fully expect Iowa to be shredded tomorrow.

 

[Clark]

You would know that more than me, I just saw Reiff is behind Bulaga on the depth chart.

I know, and actually I don't think it's been announced. It's possible Dace plays LG and Reiff plays LT.

You were just suffering from premature speculation is all:wink:

 

[Clark]

Bulaga now officially out due to illness.

Doesn't affect this game. Iowa was always going to lose. Actually, the only way this changes the game is if Iowa rallies around it and finds a way to win.

I fully expect Iowa to be shredded tomorrow.

I hate to judge based only on one post but this reeks of Clone in Hawk clothing. Can we get a ruling on a clone pretending to be an Iowa fan on a clone website?

 

[isufbcurt]

Fair enough...but I think the emotional appeal in this case is similar to Cortez. Go back and read the stories from that 98 game...Cortez was a main theme in most of the post-game talk and how he wanted everyone to cherrish the time playing. Guys were crying and they were using his name as a rallying cry on the field all game.

Again...I'm not saying the Bulaga situation is identical, however I read it could be season ending ordeal, 3 games, etc...

Given a one game situation...ala ISU in 98...the troops can rally and elevate to a higher level, for a short amount of time. I do admitt Marc Cortez and Bulaga are not even close in terms of talent and impact to the game as a whole....but the "emotional" aspect is valid, IMO.

I don't need to read the stories from the 98 game cause i was there. There were some other motivating factors for that game besides the Cortez story.

 

[tman24]

Ok - who's Bulaga?

Well, I could be wrong, but I believe Bulaga is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.

 

[rosebowliowa]

If I were a Clone in Hawk's clothing on a Clone board just to play some kind of joke on this situation, I wouldn't have a join date of December 08.

 

[DaddyMac]

I could defend myself, but what would that prove on the internet?

Consider this, though: if I were a Clone in Hawk's clothing on a Clone board just to play some kind of joke on this situation, I wouldn't have a join date of December 08.

Hmmmm... that's a convincing point.

Then again, I've never known a hawk to sign up and then keep his/her trap shut for 10 months either.... :wink: