Ideas for Transfer Rules

Marcelason78

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Not the point, its still free education and a chance to show out and move back up to D1. These are young men and women but at the end of the day they're adults. I feel like a grandpa saying that and I'm only 32.

Also factor in a lot of kids are point blank told by their current coaches they should transfer.
Agree coaches do move players out. But if they were restricted on how many transfers they could bring back in some of this would come to a halt.
 

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Agree coaches do move players out. But if they were restricted on how many transfers they could bring back in some of this would come to a halt.
I can't get past the point of scholarships being 1 year contracts. Old transfer rules were always antiquated. If a kid signs a 4 year scholarship, sure I can get on board with your point.
 

Marcelason78

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There is no way that would be enforceable. The courts have made it clear, restricting player movement is a no-no.
You wouldn’t be telling anyone they couldn’t transfer. Players can’t force any school to accept them if there’s no transfer spot available.
 

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Forcing a player to sit out for a year before playing again, while the coach they followed is able to coach immediately, is at best a poor look, and at worst, an invitation for lawsuits.
To clarify I meant if a player transfers to Iowa State for football and gets there for Spring Ball without being in classes. Then if they decide to transfer again before the season starts in the Fall, they sit a year.
 

AllInForISU

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You wouldn’t be telling anyone they couldn’t transfer. Players can’t force any school to accept them if there’s no transfer spot available.

Anything restricting a players earning potential would never go through. Telling them they can’t transfer to a school based on some arbitrary “cap on transfers” would surely fail in court.

It’s one thing if a team has reached its scholarship limit and can’t take another player, it’s another to tell them they can’t, just because.
 

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To clarify I meant if a player transfers to Iowa State for football and gets there for Spring Ball without being in classes. Then if they decide to transfer again before the season starts in the Fall, they sit a year.

I’m pretty sure you have to be in classes to participate in any practices. Am I mistaken?
 

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Make them employees and give them collective bargaining rights. Minimum salary rates that increases for every following year they are at the school. Allow each player one free transfer, which may occur after the final four and ends the last day of April. Transfer a 2nd time, you must sit out a season. If your coach leaves you are allowed to transfer and not have it count against you. Each school is given a hard cap on their NIL, or payments out to the students.
 

Marcelason78

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Anything restricting a players earning potential would never go through. Telling them they can’t transfer to a school based on some arbitrary “cap on transfers” would surely fail in court.

It’s one thing if a team has reached its scholarship limit and can’t take another player, it’s another to tell them they can’t, just because.
If there is acceptance with scholarship limits why can’t the NCAA implement team transfer limits?
 

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This. The days of players being forced to sit out a year after transferring are gone. It's just asking to have legal action taken against you. Anything can be viewed as punitive to the athletes is going to be challenged. You can bank on it. And the courts have not exactly been keen on agreeing with the NCAA/schools.

Ridiculous it lasted as long as it did

Restrictions not forced on other people enrolled at the university should come with compensation for said restrictions. Collectively bargained

That said, I’m not sure we know what legislative and judicial solutions will come in the next 4 years.
 

AllInForISU

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If there is acceptance with scholarship limits why can’t the NCAA implement team transfer limits?

I mean, they can try, but there is no way it wouldn’t go without being challenged, and the way things have gone, NCAA would face another defeat. No one has challenged roster/scholarship limits, probably because schools don’t have the money to keep adding scholarships and there isn’t a need for the challenge in courts.
 

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I would like to see athletes have to declare their agent when they go into the portal. And anyone wanting to be an agent would have to go through a basic training course in order to be certified. Too much funny business is taking place in the current shadows.
 

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Is there a rule that prevents someone from transferring in the middle of a season (or even in the middle of a game)?
 

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No on limiting the number of transfers. Easiest example is when a coach leaves there's a good chance a majority of the players leave. Can't just leave a program high and dry.
I meant that if they were to transfer in for say Spring Ball but not enrolled in classes, but then try to transfer again before the season starts in the Fall they'd have to sit out. That would be two transfers between seasons
 

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I’m pretty sure you have to be in classes to participate in any practices. Am I mistaken?
That's what I would like to have changed. Why make a player stick it out at a school they don't want to be at for the Spring Semester? Let them leave and if they sign they get to take part in Spring Ball. If they're enrolled for Summer classes then they're eligible for the Fall season. For basketball players they could take an "incomplete" at their current school when transferring, move to their new program and take part in practices or facilities, but enroll full-time for Summer classes.
 

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What? Hypotheticals that don't happen. Even if they did, my points stand.

Sorry to make this political but this is the Trumpiest response I've ever responded to.
Do you understand I'm saying players are free to during a semester to their new program while not being a student yet? That they would get full access just as if they had been there in the Fall. They'd just have to be enrolled for Summer classes. However if a player transfers, goes to new school over the spring semester (where they aren't in class but getting full program access) but then before the Fall starts to transfer again then they're out a year of athletic eligibility. That would be school hoping for NIL deals between seasons.

The Trumpiest comment? With all due respect, @#_& you. Lol. I said with all due respect, means I can say anything. - Ricky Bobby
 

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Just so we are clear, my idea is that a football player wouldn't have to stick around at their current school to finish their Spring Semester and arrive after Spring Ball. They would be allowed to transfer immediately to the program and be a full program member and they'd be eligible for the Fall season as long as they were enrolled full-time during Summer classes.

That's better for the player, coaches, and program. But if someone tried to offer them more money before the Football season started and they'd try to leave before the Fall season started, they'd have to sit out a year.
 

AllInForISU

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Just so we are clear, my idea is that a football player wouldn't have to stick around at their current school to finish their Spring Semester and arrive after Spring Ball. They would be allowed to transfer immediately to the program and be a full program member and they'd be eligible for the Fall season as long as they were enrolled full-time during Summer classes.

That's better for the player, coaches, and program. But if someone tried to offer them more money before the Football season started and they'd try to leave before the Fall season started, they'd have to sit out a year.

Strongly disagree with this. GPA requirements still need to be a requirement. Incomplete classes would make them academically ineligible. There is no way they could make that up in the summer.
 

AllInForISU

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Is there a rule that prevents someone from transferring in the middle of a season (or even in the middle of a game)?

Well, classes I would imagine play a role in that along with the transfer portal window.
 

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Strongly disagree with this. GPA requirements still need to be a requirement. Incomplete classes would make them academically ineligible. There is no way they could make that up in the summer.
But a regular student could quit mid semester and then attend another school in the summer. This is really for football as basketball isn't done until April and it's just a few weeks left generally in the Spring Semester at that point.