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Gonzo

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Episode 2: Fast and Furious Face-Off - the greatest sports cars of all time.

1. Ford Mustang
2. Chevrolet Corvette
3. Lamborghini Countach
4. Shelby Cobra
5. Porsche 550 Spyder
6. Ferrari Testarossa
7. Mercedes 300SL
8. Dodge Charger
9. Mazda Miata
10. Pontiac Firebird Trans Am

I've never been a big car guy so this isn't really my wheelhouse, but the Miata being on this list seems pretty laughable. Having 50% of the "Greatest Sports Cars of All Time" list being American made seems pretty homerish. And putting the Mustang as the #1 sports car of all time seems way off to me.

Interested to hear what car guys think.
 

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Episode 2: Fast and Furious Face-Off - the greatest sports cars of all time.

1. Ford Mustang
2. Chevrolet Corvette
3. Lamborghini Countach
4. Shelby Cobra
5. Porsche 550 Spyder
6. Ferrari Testarossa
7. Mercedes 300SL
8. Dodge Charger
9. Mazda Miata
10. Pontiac Firebird Trans Am

I've never been a big car guy so this isn't really my wheelhouse, but the Miata being on this list seems pretty laughable. Having 50% of the "Greatest Sports Cars of All Time" list being American made seems pretty homerish. And putting the Mustang as the #1 sports car of all time seems way off to me.

Interested to hear what car guys think.

Miata’s are actually held pretty highly regarded in the street/track racing scene. They’re cheap, small, light, very maneuverable and a lot of times quick as hell after some work. It’s where a lot of people start before moving into higher dollar cars.
 
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Gonzo

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Miata’s are actually held pretty highly regarded in the street/track racing scene. They’re cheap, small, light, very maneuverable and a lot of times quick as hell after some work. It’s where a lot of people start before moving into higher dollar cars.
Interesting, wouldn't have thought that.
 

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My favorite stadium of all time would be old Tiger stadium in Detroit. Seats behind home plate were a bit below field level, pretty much giving you a Catchers view of the game. You could hear everything said on the field. Absolutely beautiful.
 

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Not sure if anyone else is checking out this new series on History Channel hosted by Peyton Manning. Thought it'd be a colorful topic for discussion.

Episode 1: Stadium Smackdown - the greatest stadiums and arenas of all time.

1. Yankee Stadium (New York, NY)
2. The Collisseum (Rome)
3. Madison Square Garden (New York, NY)
4. Fenway Park (Boston, MA)
5. LA Memorial Coliseum (Los Angeles, CA)
6. Wembley Stadium (London)
7. Comiskey Park (Chicago, IL)
8. Wimbledon (London)
9. The Astrodome (Houston, TX)
10. The Superdome (New Orleans, LA)

My kneejerk is there are easily a few "misses" here. Yankee Stadium at #1 is silly IMO. Sure there's a lot of history but as a venue it's pretty blah. I'd think Wrigley deserves a spot ahead of that and ahead of Comiskey. Three of the top four being East Coast is typical bias. And four baseball stadiums but not a single dedicated European football stadium? Old Trafford should be on this list somewhere.
Comiskey is worthy of #1 because of July 12, 1979!!!
 
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jcyclonee

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Not sure if anyone else is checking out this new series on History Channel hosted by Peyton Manning. Thought it'd be a colorful topic for discussion.

Episode 1: Stadium Smackdown - the greatest stadiums and arenas of all time.

1. Yankee Stadium (New York, NY)
2. The Collisseum (Rome)
3. Madison Square Garden (New York, NY)
4. Fenway Park (Boston, MA)
5. LA Memorial Coliseum (Los Angeles, CA)
6. Wembley Stadium (London)
7. Comiskey Park (Chicago, IL)
8. Wimbledon (London)
9. The Astrodome (Houston, TX)
10. The Superdome (New Orleans, LA)

My kneejerk is there are easily a few "misses" here. Yankee Stadium at #1 is silly IMO. Sure there's a lot of history but as a venue it's pretty blah. I'd think Wrigley deserves a spot ahead of that and ahead of Comiskey. Three of the top four being East Coast is typical bias. And four baseball stadiums but not a single dedicated European football stadium? Old Trafford should be on this list somewhere.
Having Comiskey, Yankee Stadium and Fenway on there seems like it is a list created by a Cardinals fan to troll Cub fans.

I don't know enough about old Comiskey to have an opinion but if it's the new one, I though it was considered the last so-so baseball park built before Camden Yards made everything better.
 

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Not sure if anyone else is checking out this new series on History Channel hosted by Peyton Manning. Thought it'd be a colorful topic for discussion.

Episode 1: Stadium Smackdown - the greatest stadiums and arenas of all time.

1. Yankee Stadium (New York, NY)
2. The Collisseum (Rome)
3. Madison Square Garden (New York, NY)
4. Fenway Park (Boston, MA)
5. LA Memorial Coliseum (Los Angeles, CA)
6. Wembley Stadium (London)
7. Comiskey Park (Chicago, IL)
8. Wimbledon (London)
9. The Astrodome (Houston, TX)
10. The Superdome (New Orleans, LA)

My kneejerk is there are easily a few "misses" here. Yankee Stadium at #1 is silly IMO. Sure there's a lot of history but as a venue it's pretty blah. I'd think Wrigley deserves a spot ahead of that and ahead of Comiskey. Three of the top four being East Coast is typical bias. And four baseball stadiums but not a single dedicated European football stadium? Old Trafford should be on this list somewhere.

Saw no Wrigley. History Channel is a joke. Won't watch.
 
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ISUTex

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Having Comiskey, Yankee Stadium and Fenway on there seems like it is a list created by a Cardinals fan to troll Cub fans.

I don't know enough about old Comiskey to have an opinion but if it's the new one, I though it was considered the last so-so baseball park built before Camden Yards made everything better.

Old Comiskey was a **** hole in a ******** part of Chicago.
 

jcyclonee

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Saw no Wrigley. History Channel is a joke. Won't watch.
Wrigley is a super-pleasant place to hang out and sort of watch a baseball game but I just don't know if it belongs on this list. I don't think Fenway should be on there either. Old Yankee Stadium probably should be on there if that is the one that is mentioned on the list.

These are the stadiums that I would consider putting on the list other than what is mentioned.

Camden Yards
Michigan Stadium
The Bird's Nest in Beijing
Maybe JerryWorld since it's so over-the-top

Personally, I would take Comiskey, Fenway, and one of either the Astrodome or Superdome off of the list.
 

jcyclonee

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Episode 2: Fast and Furious Face-Off - the greatest sports cars of all time.

1. Ford Mustang
2. Chevrolet Corvette
3. Lamborghini Countach
4. Shelby Cobra
5. Porsche 550 Spyder
6. Ferrari Testarossa
7. Mercedes 300SL
8. Dodge Charger
9. Mazda Miata
10. Pontiac Firebird Trans Am

I've never been a big car guy so this isn't really my wheelhouse, but the Miata being on this list seems pretty laughable. Having 50% of the "Greatest Sports Cars of All Time" list being American made seems pretty homerish. And putting the Mustang as the #1 sports car of all time seems way off to me.

Interested to hear what car guys think.
No Deloreon? I don't think any of these other cars can race through time.
 

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I actually have the largest **** in the world according to CycloneNorth.
CycloneNorth has a complete lack of self-awareness and suffers from an inability to properly perspectivize objects. You simply have to hold the aaa battery in a consistent location in respect to said object.
 

pourcyne

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The amphitheater at Pompei held 20,000.

I've been there. Incredible.


Have also visited remnants of Roman amphitheaters in Paris (Arène de Lutèce, seated 17,000); the one in Tarragona, Spain (seated 15,000); and the coliseum in Nîmes, France (seated 24,000).

Better to keep a global perspective as well. It would be shame to miss this one in Beijing (looks like a flattened ball of rubberbands). It seats 80,000.

beijing.jpg

So, yeah, these "best of" lists are more interesting for what they ignore.
 

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Episode 2: Fast and Furious Face-Off - the greatest sports cars of all time.

1. Ford Mustang
2. Chevrolet Corvette
3. Lamborghini Countach
4. Shelby Cobra
5. Porsche 550 Spyder
6. Ferrari Testarossa
7. Mercedes 300SL
8. Dodge Charger
9. Mazda Miata
10. Pontiac Firebird Trans Am

I've never been a big car guy so this isn't really my wheelhouse, but the Miata being on this list seems pretty laughable. Having 50% of the "Greatest Sports Cars of All Time" list being American made seems pretty homerish. And putting the Mustang as the #1 sports car of all time seems way off to me.

Interested to hear what car guys think.

I think it's a little American biased. You also need to get into the definition of what a sports car is. They've got a Trans Am on there but not the Porsche 911? The 911 is truly an iconic car and a damn good one to drive (apparently)

The Miata is a great sports car. It's not going to win a drag race or compete at Daytonna or Le Mans, but put it on an AutoCross track or a road course and it'll tear it up. Lightweight, decent power, small, etc.

Reminds me of an article I read about 5-10 years ago where they said (and sort of proved) that a Ford Focus ST was actually a better sports car than a Ford GT, mainly because you could actually use the ST and it wouldn't try and just kill you the way a GT would if you tried to get spirited with it.