Has your employer been acquired?

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Just today I had to basically apologize to a manager that had an employee that takes inbound customer calls that could not work for over 2 days because our help desk was so incompetent that a fix we had documented was never tried and I fixed in under 10 minutes. I spent more time explaining and apologizing to the manager what their employee had to go through than all the lost productivity and costs that situation caused. This is why I fear eventually getting laid off because I see it on a daily basis how skilled employees can save the company "soft dollars" by fixing IT issues in a timely manner and keeping those affected employees productive instead of sitting around with nothing to do. There are days I can easily find some wasted expenses that costs more than what they pay me to do my job but the sad thing once you work for a big company is that the people that make millions in salary are so far out of touch with what is actually happening that if they cannot quantify how it helps them they just want to keep cutting it if helps their bottom line.

This is an extremely accurate and sad reality.
 
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Funny. The company I work for just did a spin off with half of its business, and my plant was part of the portion that got sold to a private equity firm…. We are in transition period until Q1 of next calendar year.
 

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I don't know the ins and outs of your firm and situation and won't pretend to. But if you are going to go to work for them, have the belief that the people managing others and making the decisions are people you would genuinely like to work for. That's the most important thing.
Yes, absolutely. I've both good and bad managers at each of the two companies I've worked for so I feel like I know what to look for and what questions to ask.

I'm in a good spot right now - like my job, like my manager - but I do like the thought of working for a smaller, more alike company. The CEO of the small company is an engineer by training which I like. And as a small/agile company, everybody gets to wear several hats. I think I can do a fine job evaluating the company, but the buy-out thing kinda threw me.

The chairman at my current employer is an engineer, which I like, but there are many "up-and-comers" who made their mark by cost reducing. From what I've seen so far they are holding on to that philosophy which is making the good people's jobs harder. I could just keep my head down and wait for them to move on but I'd rather make positive change.
 

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Yes, absolutely. I've both good and bad managers at each of the two companies I've worked for so I feel like I know what to look for and what questions to ask.

I'm in a good spot right now - like my job, like my manager - but I do like the thought of working for a smaller, more alike company. The CEO of the small company is an engineer by training which I like. And as a small/agile company, everybody gets to wear several hats. I think I can do a fine job evaluating the company, but the buy-out thing kinda threw me.

The chairman at my current employer is an engineer, which I like, but there are many "up-and-comers" who made their mark by cost reducing. From what I've seen so far they are holding on to that philosophy which is making the good people's jobs harder. I could just keep my head down and wait for them to move on but I'd rather make positive change.

Couldn’t help but notice the “agile” drop in there. The new buzzword way of working these days.
 

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Engineering Manager / be very aware of any negotiation relative to compensation. It’s not what you think you are worth, what do they think you are worth - that is the baseline, and be confident you are better.
You may not have any idea of your value to them in their eyes.
 

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I work for one of those big companies that you mentioned they want to get acquired by.

In my experience the mid-upper management is a fire fight on who sticks around while the rest get integrated into our stuff. Then there is a culling of the heard, some big, some barely any, after about a year (it usually lines up with the fiscal more or less).

So I think unless you're in a manager or exec role you're safe for at least a year. Enough time to get your stock options sold/consolidated/whatever and then find the life boat.
 

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I work for one of those big companies that you mentioned they want to get acquired by.

In my experience the mid-upper management is a fire fight on who sticks around while the rest get integrated into our stuff. Then there is a culling of the heard, some big, some barely any, after about a year (it usually lines up with the fiscal more or less).

So I think unless you're in a manager or exec role you're safe for at least a year. Enough time to get your stock options sold/consolidated/whatever and then find the life boat.
Yeah, and I'm not sure i want to deal with that stress when I'm content where I am. I have pretty good benefits here (health/dental/vision, 401k with a match AND a pension), decent pay with consistent 3% to 4% raises, zero commute issues (though no WFH anymore), high autonomy in my work, etc. I think it’s partly a "grass is always greener" situation.

But, I'll keep talking to them as long as they want to talk to me. If nothing else it's potentially leverage to get a quick grade bump.
 
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Yeah, and I'm not sure i want to deal with that stress when I'm content where I am. I have pretty good benefits here (health/dental/vision, 401k with a match AND a pension), decent pay with consistent 3% to 4% raises, zero commute issues (though no WFH anymore), high autonomy in my work, etc. I think it’s partly a "grass is always greener" situation.

But, I'll keep talking to them as long as they want to talk to me. If nothing else it's potentially leverage to get a quick grade bump.

I know you're not in IT proper but this is very common in my world. People change jobs every 2-3 years. It's kinda crazy. If you're in an in demand field which it sounds like you are, I wouldn't worry too much to be honest.
 
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Yeah, and I'm not sure i want to deal with that stress when I'm content where I am. I have pretty good benefits here (health/dental/vision, 401k with a match AND a pension), decent pay with consistent 3% to 4% raises, zero commute issues (though no WFH anymore), high autonomy in my work, etc. I think it’s partly a "grass is always greener" situation.

But, I'll keep talking to them as long as they want to talk to me. If nothing else it's potentially leverage to get a quick grade bump.
IMO adding exposure to autonomous navigation will open doors for you down the road. Not sure how much you've changed jobs in your career but don't feel like taking this opportunity will be the end with your current job. Leave on good terms and regardless of what may happen with an acquisition you could possibly return to your current employer. Either way you walk away with a pay bump (take the stock option!), and solid experience

I had an opportunity come along in December and after a lot of hard talks with my wife about it (have a now 11 month old at home) decided to take it. It has been a blast working in more of a startup environment.

Best of luck
 
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Just today I had to basically apologize to a manager that had an employee that takes inbound customer calls that could not work for over 2 days because our help desk was so incompetent that a fix we had documented was never tried and I fixed in under 10 minutes. I spent more time explaining and apologizing to the manager what their employee had to go through than all the lost productivity and costs that situation caused. This is why I fear eventually getting laid off because I see it on a daily basis how skilled employees can save the company "soft dollars" by fixing IT issues in a timely manner and keeping those affected employees productive instead of sitting around with nothing to do. There are days I can easily find some wasted expenses that costs more than what they pay me to do my job but the sad thing once you work for a big company is that the people that make millions in salary are so far out of touch with what is actually happening that if they cannot quantify how it helps them they just want to keep cutting it if helps their bottom line.

It's the ole economies of scale versus bureaucratic inefficiency comparison. I decided many years ago that my litmus test for a company I would work for is the HR department. If they're big enough to have one, I'm not interested.
 

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If you would do a little moonlight consulting in Louisiana the Alabama people may hear of your potential.:)
 

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To be clear, I probably should have said STEM rather than tech. It's an engineering manager position for a new department. They are in the autonomous vehicle space, which is why somebody like Google/Microsoft/Amazon would be interested.

My background is reliability, systems engineering and functional safety (designing products to be fail-safe). Those skills are very transferable, but I know very little about the product itself. Electronics aren't my strong suit but the folks who work there now are experts.

I have no experience in acquisition, but given your description here, I would assume when a tech company purchases another tech company, not only are they buying the product, but also the talent that comes with it. In the tech world, I would think the product and the talent are one in the same. When I refer to talent here, I am talking about those who actually make/develop the product.

With that said, I would assume that if your on the engineering/development side of the business that you'd probably be safe for a while as you would have working knowledge of the product. If you were in finance/accounting, HR, internal IT, then you'd might be worried.
 
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I went through like 5 in 4 years. I was in the Ag industry and seed companies started consolidated and merge. I was on the research side of so this was the saying, “too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

Even had the CEO of one company talk to us about how excited they were to move forward and since we had already been bought and sold twice in two years, that they weren’t going to sell us as he chuckled. Well about a week later we were sold yet again. Was never really worried about losing my job. Just got tired of dealing with all the benefits packages, pensions and stock changes.
 

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I've worked IT for 4+ decades. Worked on both sides of the acquiring fence. And, I've invested for the same amount of time. Here's what will happen 90% of the time. The acquiring company will first be looking at what 'clientele' they've bought over what product they've bought. If they have a competing product, do not count on the acquired product ever hitting the street. Nor its technology being absorbed. Furthermore, to make the balance sheet look more attractive to investors, expect employee attrition. They may promise no lay-offs, but 100% of the time there will be lay-offs. Very large companies become stagnant in product and creativity and give way to 'margins'. Look at the three companies you mentioned. Google is an afterthought of what they were just 5 years ago (Hangouts is perfect evidence to that). Microsoft, well let's just say they're a 'marketing' company. Not a technology company. Always have been in the bottom half of quality. Look no further than the massive support industry to coo berate that. 80% of updates are merely cover changes. Amazon would, by far, be your best bet for continued success. Though I don't like their internal political structure, I can't argue their creativity and pursuit of quality to overcome margins.
And, finally, as you'll be one of the last one's in the door, expect to be one of the first one out the door. No matter how talented you are. It's a sad testimony to management, but for some reason 'managers' are higher valued than the underlings. Very sad, IMO, but I suppose they talk a bigger game.