Any list that doesn't include Shayok is laughable. I'd take Young or Jacobson over Garza just based on defense alone
Garza is better than either of those two.
Any list that doesn't include Shayok is laughable. I'd take Young or Jacobson over Garza just based on defense alone
He can score against below average competition. Against good teams, he is trash. Horrible defender.Garza is better than either of those two.
Anyone that's watched these two teams with no bias would take Young over Garza.Any list that doesn't include Shayok is laughable. I'd take Young or Jacobson over Garza just based on defense alone
Heck, lets just throw Lard's numbers into the debate as well.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/luka-garza-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/cameron-lard-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/michael-jacobson-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/solomon-young-1.html
Clone fans have a hard time admitting that a goofy looking kid that runs funny and plays for Iowa is better than most of their big men. I will give Lard a "push" with Garza.
Heck, lets just throw Lard's numbers into the debate as well.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/luka-garza-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/cameron-lard-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/michael-jacobson-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/solomon-young-1.html
Clone fans have a hard time admitting that a goofy looking kid that runs funny and plays for Iowa is better than most of their big men. I will give Lard a "push" with Garza.
Heck, lets just throw Lard's numbers into the debate as well.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/luka-garza-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/cameron-lard-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/michael-jacobson-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/solomon-young-1.html
Clone fans have a hard time admitting that a goofy looking kid that runs funny and plays for Iowa is better than most of their big men. I will give Lard a "push" with Garza.
Why do you disagree @benjimill ? I'd be more than happy to have a discussion about it.
Garza was elite offensively last year as a freshman with plenty of room to improve. He had a better PER and BPM than anyone on Iowa State’s roster, and was a better rebounder than anyone on Iowa State’s roster.
I get that he is easy to make fun of because he is a slow footed, goofy looking white guy, but Garza would be one of the best (if not THE best) offensive players on Iowa State’s team. He wasn’t good defensively, but he wasn’t as terrible as those on this board make him out to be. If you think Iowa State (or the combined Iowa-Iowa State team) wouldn’t find 20 minutes a game for an elite offensive player and rebounder, you are delusional.
Garza was elite offensively last year as a freshman with plenty of room to improve. He had a better PER and BPM than anyone on Iowa State’s roster, and was a better rebounder than anyone on Iowa State’s roster.
I get that he is easy to make fun of because he is a slow footed, goofy looking white guy, but Garza would be one of the best (if not THE best) offensive players on Iowa State’s team. He wasn’t good defensively, but he wasn’t as terrible as those on this board make him out to be. If you think Iowa State (or the combined Iowa-Iowa State team) wouldn’t find 20 minutes a game for an elite offensive player and rebounder, you are delusional.
Garza was elite offensively last year as a freshman with plenty of room to improve. He had a better PER and BPM than anyone on Iowa State’s roster, and was a better rebounder than anyone on Iowa State’s roster.
I get that he is easy to make fun of because he is a slow footed, goofy looking white guy, but Garza would be one of the best (if not THE best) offensive players on Iowa State’s team. He wasn’t good defensively, but he wasn’t as terrible as those on this board make him out to be. If you think Iowa State (or the combined Iowa-Iowa State team) wouldn’t find 20 minutes a game for an elite offensive player and rebounder, you are delusional.
Yeah, when someone responds to a factual/statistical based argument with a g
I assume you think Lard is a lot better than Cook and Bohannon because of PER right?
If we're talking about last season only, I'd put Garza behind Wigginton, Jackson, Lard, and Babb. Maybe even Talley. There's nothing elite about Garza. There's one elite talent in the state of Iowa as of May 11th and that's Wigginton. Period. End of story.
Lard is probably a better all around player than both Cook and Bohannon.