Game of Thrones Season 8

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It'll be interesting to see the army she raises for king landing. Based on their conversations, the north, Vale, dorne and most likely the storm lands are on her side. I'd assume the river lands, reach, and Yaras part of the iron islands are on her side too. So basically all of Westeros is against her.
 

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No doubt. An overwhelming desire to rule is never a good thing.

I think in everyone's rush to defend Danerys they're forgetting what we have right now: two women that are willing to burn King's Landing to the ground just so they can rule over the ashes. This isn't the same Danerys that conquered Slaver's Bay while keeping innocent casualties to a minimum; this is a Danerys that will kill every single person in King's Landing if she has to in order to remove Cersei from the Iron Throne. What's worse is it's like finding out that she doesn't have a legitimate claim to the throne has flipped a switch in her. Suddenly she's a paranoid woman that trusts very few people.
 

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Agree. Sansa and Arya pissed me off.

Danaerys has sacrificed a ton fighting alongside them (hell, if she had gone south first, the wall probably doesnt get knocked down and it takes longer for the night king to get south... she could have wrapped **** up and headed back north). But all she gets is undeserved hate from Sansa.

Oh, and this "Daenerys is the mad queen" thing comes off as really forced if that's the direction theyre going. She's angry but deservedly so. Theyre also acting like civiliians have come out ok in most of the other cities that have been conquered. Out of nowhere suddenly its a travesty if there is collateral damage. Varys can **** off if he's talking about 'whats good for the realm'. What is bad for the realm is Cersei remaining in power.
She's a Targaryen. Her Dad killed their Grandpa and uncle, and their Dad went to war because her brother raped and abducted their aunt. The entire North has no reason to love Targaryens, even ones that helped them.
 
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Why would Dani and the fleet get to Kings Landing before her army and Jon had time to march down from the North. It makes no sense, send the army down, and then wait a week, and then sail down with the fleet so they all get to Kings Landing at the same time. Right now, she is outnumbered, and will be until the rest of her army marches to her. No good military mind would ever allow that to happen.
 
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Why would Dani and the fleet get to Kings Landing before her army and Jon had time to march down from the North. It makes no sense, send the army down, and then wait a week, and then sail down with the fleet so they all get to Kings Landing at the same time. Right now, she is outnumbered, and will be until the rest of her army marches to her. No good military mind would ever allow that to happen.
I think after losing one fleet already, I'd skip the sailing part.
 

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They know this isn't true now though
only very recently. Opinions change hard. I'm just saying that the "Mad Taragryen" stereotype is hard to shake, because it was earned many times over in Westerosi history.
 
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Why would Dani and the fleet get to Kings Landing before her army and Jon had time to march down from the North. It makes no sense, send the army down, and then wait a week, and then sail down with the fleet so they all get to Kings Landing at the same time. Right now, she is outnumbered, and will be until the rest of her army marches to her. No good military mind would ever allow that to happen.
especially if you're going to make demands. You want a show of force.
 
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She's a Targaryen. Her Dad killed their Grandpa and uncle, and their Dad went to war because her brother raped and abducted their aunt. The entire North has no reason to love Targaryens, even ones that helped them.

Why exactly are we acting like "shes a targaryen" means anything? Jon is a targaryen. There were good targaryens and bad ones. And that goes for most houses.
 
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Still hasn't learned to fly dragons at night.....or above clouds....

Starvation has long been an excellent tactic.
 
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Why exactly are we acting like "shes a targaryen" means anything? Jon is a targaryen. There were good targaryens and bad ones. And that goes for most houses.
No, madness is far more prevalent for the Targaryens.
"Every time a Targaryen is born the gods flip a coin"

300 years of mostly inbreeding will do that. Insanity is strongly associated with their house.

https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Targaryen_madness
 
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She not only let Jorah go North with Jon but flew her dragons over to save them all before she had “proof” they existed so...

Jorah pretty strongly insisted on going, and she was already in love with Jon. So she had two reasons to go north of the wall, both of which were people she loved. She doesn't love the northerners. The north doesn't trust her, and there have been plenty of seeds planted along the way to suggest that their mistrust will ultimately be sage.
 

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I think in everyone's rush to defend Danerys they're forgetting what we have right now: two women that are willing to burn King's Landing to the ground just so they can rule over the ashes. This isn't the same Danerys that conquered Slaver's Bay while keeping innocent casualties to a minimum; this is a Danerys that will kill every single person in King's Landing if she has to in order to remove Cersei from the Iron Throne. What's worse is it's like finding out that she doesn't have a legitimate claim to the throne has flipped a switch in her. Suddenly she's a paranoid woman that trusts very few people.

And has just lost the two people she trusted more than anyone. She's more alone than she's been in a long, long time.