Gamblin…Smoke and Fire

[CapnCy]

And often times people are caught doing that.

Yep...and overall, for this topic specifically, it sounds like this is drilled into the kids they absolutely can't do it (gambling)....and there are other things they are not supposed to do....and if they do it (even if trying to find work arounds) and get caught...well, the debate shouldn't be about getting caught/how they were caught...it's about they broke the rule.

 

[Dandy]

Yeah they’re screwed no matter what it’s just how many games they’ll miss.

12

 

[RustShack]

12

I thought only one of them was missing the full season from it.

 

[volclone]

Unless I’m mistaken, as for SEC markets, online sports gambling is only legal in Louisiana, and Alabama just fired their baseball coach for suspicious activity related to a game/games between Alabama and LSU, although it was the Ohio gaming commission that found the activity.

Alabama baseball coach fired amid probe into 'suspicious' bets linked to LSU game

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. (AP) — Alabama is firing baseball coach Brad Bohannon after a report of suspicious bets involving his team, with the school saying he violated “the standards, duties and responsibilities expected of university employees.”

www.wbrz.com

And this would be wrong....online sports gambling is legal in Tennessee as well.

 

[Statefan10]

12

As a former collegiate athlete I seriously don’t feel bad for them whatsoever. I feel bad for their teammates.

 

[Dandy]

I thought only one of them was missing the full season from it.

All five players are done for the year, with four of the five losing their last year of eligibility. Their careers are over.

 

[enisthemenace]

And this would be wrong....online sports gambling is legal in Tennessee as well.

Thank you. I did say “unless I’m mistaken”.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

The betting apps literally do not let you place a bet if they detect a vpn. Also they require you to have geolocation services on your phone turned on. These companies aren't dumb

Exactly. The books have to vigorously defend their licenses at all times. It's hilarious to think that a VPN would fool them.

Athletes and employees got caught because of Iowa law stating that anybody associated with athletics can't bet. It's part of the law that legalized sports betting in the state. DK or FanDuel or whoever turned them all in because they want to keep their license and stay in good graces with the state gaming commission.

 

[jsb]

This gambling story - moreso than maybe any I can remember in CF's history - has taken on an amazing level of speculative storytelling. I realize it's a combination of what social media has done to society and the lack of concrete information out in the public realm, but some posts are next level Tom Clancy book worthy. We might even get a Jerry Bruckheimer movie out of this before the facts are released.

really? honestly it seems like the fans have stayed pretty calm during this whole thing. It took until Dekker's mom showed up on the criminal website for anyone to say his name on this board. And it took until yesterday for the other names to show up on this board or the 247 board.

 

[cysmiley]

Is it possible for ISU AD to be sanctioned for lack of institutional control? I,m hoping not, we need all our scholly's; practices; etc. to develop our players

 

[jsb]

Is it possible for ISU AD to be sanctioned for lack of institutional control? I,m hoping not, we need all our scholly's; practices; etc. to develop our players

I suppose anything is possible. But I doubt it. Everyone has said that Iowa State educates the players on this stuff. They appear to be cooperating. A bunch of stupid players isn't Iowa State's fault.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

I suppose anything is possible. But I doubt it. Everyone has said that Iowa State educates the players on this stuff. They appear to be cooperating. A bunch of stupid players isn't Iowa State's fault.

Right. They've got the records of kids signing off on knowing the rules. The department did everything they could.

 

[MartyFine]

Right. They've got the records of kids signing off on knowing the rules. The department did everything they could.

Where can we find a copy of the rules?

 

[isucy86]

losing Jirehl railroaded last season, so yes losing all those guys would railroad this season.

It would hurt depth, but my expectations wouldn't change much.

Brock was a loss last year, but if Norton had stayed healthy would Norton be the guy we are talking about going into this season.

For me our running game will be solid if our OL is solid.

QB is a big concern, just because going into a season with an inexperienced QB is a roll-of-the-dice. Last year is proof.

With OL/TE positions, unless it is an all conference player, IMO it's next man in!

On defense, I feel Heacock and staff have a lot of quality players at all 3 levels. My biggest concern on loosing guys would be the CB position.

This hurts from a depth standpoint if we suffer a rash of injuries.

 

[hawksuck75]

MGM still has ISU at 5.5 wins in their sportsbook +100 for the under in case anyone was interested in hedging their happiness.

 

[Pope]

IMO…. losing Lee would be the biggest blow…. after Dekkers of course.

Losing Lee definitely hurts, but it helps that Dominique Orange really came on strong as a freshman last season.

 

[Pope]

All five players are done for the year, with four of the five losing their last year of eligibility. Their careers are over.

It always bugs me when people state their opinions as undisputed facts. You very well could be right in this, but it's just your opinion and nothing more.

 

[Dandy]

MGM still has ISU at 5.5 wins in their sportsbook +100 for the under in case anyone was interested in hedging their happiness.

+136 on FanDuel

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Where can we find a copy of the rules?

This is from the most recent UNI handbook I have (2020-21). I assume this is standard language that comes right from the NCAA. Emphasis mine.

Sports Wagering – “Don’t Bet On It” The NCAA strictly prohibits student-athletes and athletics department’s staff members from engaging in the following activities:

•Soliciting a bet on any intercollegiate or professional team; •Accepting a bet on any team representing the institution; •Soliciting or accepting a bet on any intercollegiate or professional competition for any item (e.g. cash, shirt, dinner) that has tangible value; •Engaging in gambling activities that do not involve the outcome of contests (e.g., fantasy leagues, picking the top scorer); •Participating in any gambling activity that involves intercollegiate athletics or professional athletics through a bookmaker, a parlay card, or any other method employed by organized gambling; •Providing information to individuals involved in organized gambling activities concerning intercollegiate athletics competition; or •Engaging in activities designed to influence the outcome of an intercollegiate contest or in an effort to affect win-loss margins (i.e., “point shaving”).

The NCAA is very clear regarding their stance on gambling and the consequences associated with sports wagering. The moment a student-athlete is discovered to have made a bet of any kind on any college or professional sport or has given information to someone who does gamble, the following will occur: •Student-athlete’s involved in activities designed to influence the outcome or win/loss margins (i.e. point shaving) will be ruled permanently ineligible. •Student-athlete’s involved in accepting or soliciting bets on their own institution will be ruled permanently ineligible. •Student-athlete’s involved in any other type of sport wagering through organized gambling shall lose at least one-year of eligibility.

 

[werdnamanhill]

This is from the most recent UNI handbook I have (2020-21). I assume this is standard language that comes right from the NCAA. Emphasis mine.

Except a VT player last year was only suspended 6 games. Seems like it's not so cut and dry