Five points on Iowa State's win over oklahoma

[AuH2O]

I agree the defensive strategy against ISU is pretty clear. Pack it in with some zone mixed in and make them shoot over you. It certainly beats the alternatives of pressuring on the perimeter, trapping, or trying to speed ISU up.

But I really liked the assertiveness I saw against OU. It may get stopped sometimes or lead to a few TOs but you've got to continue to try to force it towards the basket and finish strong when given the opportunity. Can't settle by catching the ball flat-footed, take a couple dribbles, and put up a contested jumper. Even with the struggles, I think the offense has turned a corner the last couple games in attitude.

THT and Shayok passed up some good looks from 3 right on the catch only to take some dribbles then shoot a three with a guy in their face. Maybe both were really looking to get in the lane, which considering THT's success it's understandable. It also seemed like Shayok was trying to force the action and draw some fouls to manufacture some points on FTs. Again, makes a lot of sense considering he was struggling from the field at the time.

If ISU comes out and has a poor shooting game vs. TCU I might start to be a little worried. At this point I'm feeling pretty good about the offense.

 

[LivntheCyLife]

THT and Shayok passed up some good looks from 3 right on the catch only to take some dribbles then shoot a three with a guy in their face. Maybe both were really looking to get in the lane, which considering THT's success it's understandable. It also seemed like Shayok was trying to force the action and draw some fouls to manufacture some points on FTs. Again, makes a lot of sense considering he was struggling from the field at the time.

If ISU comes out and has a poor shooting game vs. TCU I might start to be a little worried. At this point I'm feeling pretty good about the offense.

Agreed. It's going to be hard to always make the right decision on catch and shoot versus pass versus dribble drive. But you can't be afraid and have to attack some. Against good defenses you can't be satisfied to just not turn it over and get a jumper off.

 

[Blandboy]

The team maybe a little tired and that maybe causing some of the issues. 3 games in 6 days may have caught up to this team a little. Having this long lay off then the bye week will help this team a lot going forward.

agree on the fatigue factor...lots of shots falling short. Could well be tired legs.

 

[Blandboy]

Honestly Shaka showed people we have real problems with the 2-3 zone

because we didn’t attack the back of the zone

 

[Pat]

because we didn’t attack the back of the zone

The zone was also really effective at causing us to miss bunnies, alley-oops, and wide-open 3s. Or maybe college basketball is just a high-variance game. Perhaps.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I hate to be that guy but is Babb running low on juice? As in that injury is creeping back up because it’s a usage thing. He looked like he was fighting back the pain last night and then had the look of “my body isn’t doing what my brain is telling it to do”

 

[AuH2O]

I hate to be that guy but is Babb running low on juice? As in that injury is creeping back up because it’s a usage thing. He looked like he was fighting back the pain last night and then had the look of “my body isn’t doing what my brain is telling it to do”

Seemed like he just wasn't himself on a lot of plays last night. I do think high usage plus Saturday to Monday turnaround with a road game is tough on Nick given the nature of his injuries. Looked really good on Saturday, so I'm hopeful the longer layoff until TCU, then KSU will do him a lot of good.

 

[jsb]

I hate to be that guy but is Babb running low on juice? As in that injury is creeping back up because it’s a usage thing. He looked like he was fighting back the pain last night and then had the look of “my body isn’t doing what my brain is telling it to do”

Jesus. Based on one game? He probably played his best game of the year on Saturday.

I’ve long said I think babb plays more hurt than we think. Therefore it seems fairly reasonable that on a 48 hour turnaround he’d struggle a bit. But honestly, he’s been a lot more consistently over the last month than I thought he would be.

 

[ClonesFTW]

I hate to be that guy but is Babb running low on juice? As in that injury is creeping back up because it’s a usage thing. He looked like he was fighting back the pain last night and then had the look of “my body isn’t doing what my brain is telling it to do”

I wouldn't be shocked if after the season we learn he's been playing through some sort of pain for 2 years straight.

 

[jsb]

I wouldn't be shocked if after the season we learn he's been playing through some sort of pain for 2 years straight.

I mean, we already know that.

 

[CycloneErik]

I'm not buying #5. Against Texas, we got inside their defense continually, but just couldn't finish baskets that we (or anyone really) normally make. Against OU, we scored 75, on the road. That's hardly being stopped.

Calling it stopped just shows how spoiled we are with good offensive basketball.

 

[ClonesFTW]

I mean, we already know that.

Link?

 

[burn587]

Did you enjoy the nut sack?

Next home game that guy will be bringing him a teabag.

 

[SolarGarlic]

I hate to be that guy but is Babb running low on juice? As in that injury is creeping back up because it’s a usage thing. He looked like he was fighting back the pain last night and then had the look of “my body isn’t doing what my brain is telling it to do”

I thought there was mention of him being sick.Don't remember where I heard that.

I thought he looked hurt to start the game based on lateral quickness, but as the game went on, based on his facial expressions, he looked under the weather. It was so noticeable that it didn't seem like a nagging injury type of thing.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Hope Babb is OK. Hope he isn't thinking about shutting it down for the season, anticipating his pro career.

 

[IASTATE07]

Hope Babb is OK. Hope he isn't thinking about shutting it down for the season, anticipating his pro career.

I can't tell if people are serious anymore.

 

[NoCreativity]

Honestly Shaka showed people we have real problems with the 2-3 zone

No he didn't, Texas just completely slowed the game down which limited our offensive possessions. Texas is no pushover either, they've already proven they are are a dangerous team who can play with anyone.

That was a huge win, we didnt even play our best but still grinded out a victory. Thats something past teams wouldnt have done.

 

[CycloneErik]

Thread title is dumb. We scored way more than 5 points.

 

[ISUBerg]

I hate to be that guy but is Babb running low on juice? As in that injury is creeping back up because it’s a usage thing. He looked like he was fighting back the pain last night and then had the look of “my body isn’t doing what my brain is telling it to do”

Talley seems to be getting more minutes lately. Could be related to fatigue or guys playing through injury.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Our adjusted offensive efficiency against Oklahoma was 125.5 per 100.

That is one of our best nights on offense of the season.

OU is just good at defense. They are kind of a discount Texas Tech.