Yeah I looked through some of this year's photos and it's all people 25 and younger in their chic festival fits taking selfies. Lol. No thanks.
Event right off I-35 (Hinterland Music Festival)
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While gunner's tone is a little off, gunner is right. So many young fans have no clue what a music festival is. The weather might not be perfect. Not everything is going to go according to plan. You might have to walk a long distance! But if you're prepared and not an absolute wimp, you can have a great time. This isn't going to see one band in a stadium.
My personal bitterness is more about how Hinterland transitioned from music festival into "place to be seen" for the social media generation. That's the reason attendance #s have exploded which is just f*cking everything else up, and it'll continue to be f*cked up until they stop trying to manage a 20-25k festival as if it were a 8-10k festival. Not being able to see the stage from basically anywhere because there's an ocean of Gen-Zers passing in front of you at all times who have no appreciation or interest in the actual music and are instead just looking for a spot to get that perfect selfie, sucks.
And yes, I do know I'm getting old.
Yeah that's unfortunately a result of a lack of choice in Iowa. Hinterland separated itself with awesome lineups of national acts and up and comers. Once the secret got out, the kids moved in. I try not to be too hard on young people because it's just a part of their culture/particular point in development to "be seen", but it certainly can affect the vibe, which is what makes or breaks music festivals.
I have two daughters, 23 and 19, who are very much a part of that whole thing, they're on their way home from Lolla today, I get it, it's what their generation is, love them to death, I think they're cool as hell... I just have zero interest in immersing myself into that world with them and 20,000 of their friends. And I feel like Hinterland used to be "my" thing that they've now taken from me. They do the same thing with my cool old tshirts, lol.
No offense but you sound like an angry old man. It’s still fun. I’m not under 40 either
I went to Lallapalooza a couple of times about 15 years ago admittedly with the music as a secondary reason but seeing the headliners with the Chicago skyline behind you is pretty awesome.
One of the years Tool headlined so in that context it was worth seeing.
I feel like what’s lost on the conversation is that the organizers for Hinterland obviously oversold tickets for what the capacity of the venue is.
My impression based on first hand accounts is that Friday was a disaster, Saturday was a major improvement, and today was the same cluster that Friday was. Out of the three days, Saturday was the only day that wasn’t “sold out” and probably enabled them to barely stay under the actual capacity of the venue.
Also it’s worth mentioning that 30 people were hospitalized from Friday’s crowd and it sounds like today was even worse.
I think people have a reason to be upset — people who are blowing off concerns of the festival-goers are diminishing their concerns and experiences with an event that has been reasonably well run in the past. That’s why it’s still going to this day and events like 80/35 are not.
My impression based on first hand accounts is that Friday was a disaster, Saturday was a major improvement, and today was the same cluster that Friday was. Out of the three days, Saturday was the only day that wasn’t “sold out” and probably enabled them to barely stay under the actual capacity of the venue.
Also it’s worth mentioning that 30 people were hospitalized from Friday’s crowd and it sounds like today was even worse.
I think people have a reason to be upset — people who are blowing off concerns of the festival-goers are diminishing their concerns and experiences with an event that has been reasonably well run in the past. That’s why it’s still going to this day and events like 80/35 are not.
I would like to know what the # of incidents is at any other festival relative to attendance. This just doesn’t seem crazy to me for a huge summer multi-day festival. I agree that they probably oversold but that’s not a new thing in the production business. I think there is “blame” to go around. Could the festival do more? Ya probably. Could the attendees be more prepared to grind based on the reality of their situation? Ya probably.
I’m seeing things like Class Action Lawsuit being thrown around which seems crazy to me. It’s not a prison. Handle yourself.
30 hospitalizations is incredibly high if we use Lollapalooza as a measuring stick. They hit a record 268 hospitalizations in 2016 when they moved to a four day schedule. At 115k attendees per day, that roughly shakes out to a hospitalization for every 1700 attendees. They have since improved that number to 1 out of every 8000 attendees.
Hinterlands by comparison, if 30 hospitalizations is accurate, would have been one hospitalization for every 600 attendees.
Lollapalooza Arrests, Hospitalizations Decline Despite More Fans
GRANT PARK — Arrests and hospitalizations were down for the fourth year in a row at Lollapalooza over the weekend, the first year the mega-fest expanded
blockclubchicago.org
30 hospitalizations is incredibly high if we use Lollapalooza as a measuring stick. They hit a record 268 hospitalizations in 2016 when they moved to a four day schedule. At 115k attendees per day, that roughly shakes out to a hospitalization for every 1700 attendees. They have since improved that number to 1 out of every 8000 attendees.
Hinterlands by comparison, if 30 hospitalizations is accurate, would have been one hospitalization for every 600 attendees.
Lollapalooza Arrests, Hospitalizations Decline Despite More Fans
GRANT PARK — Arrests and hospitalizations were down for the fourth year in a row at Lollapalooza over the weekend, the first year the mega-fest expanded
But what was the heat difference?
Looks like temperatures were pretty moderate for summer. 2018 saw triple digit heat indexes but according to the linked article still saw fewer hospitalizations per capita than 2016.
80/35 is still going on but their recent headliners have been uninspiring (for me personally).
What? 80/35 is still going, it just moved to Water Works Park.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Legit complaints are fine. The promoter is a decent dude. Quit whining.
