End of Game Time Breakdown w/ Kneel Down
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That's about what I had counted it at too. Clocked stopped at :54 left for about 10 seconds for no reason at all.
C'mon, Jeff Woody is on the post-game show talking about it being a 25 second play clock and that would leave about 25 seconds at 4th down. Thinking about calling in to correct him but they've only said the phone number one time since I've been listening and it was too quick to get it into my phone.
CPR said he ran the ball because he didn't want to punt again. (even if just 1 second runs off the clock at each kneel, ISU is punting with under 10 seconds left).
Did he really think he was going to get a first down running right up the middle of a stacked box 3 times?
Thats a total BS excuse. There was a basic assumption we would have to punt, but no one ran the numbers to figure it out exactly. The math is rather simple. Again, if at least 1 second comes off the clock with each of the 3 kneels, plus 40 seconds after 2nd and 3rd down, thats 83 seconds, or 1:23. We had 1:31 left on the game clock.
Did he really think he was going to get a first down running right up the middle of a stacked box 3 times?
Thats a total BS excuse. There was a basic assumption we would have to punt, but no one ran the numbers to figure it out exactly. The math is rather simple. Again, if at least 1 second comes off the clock with each of the 3 kneels, plus 40 seconds after 2nd and 3rd down, thats 83 seconds, or 1:23. We had 1:31 left on the game clock.
Sorry, bud, its 40 seconds.
http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/a...-football-need-know-rules-changes-2015-season
That's what I thought originally but then listened to woody. I had doublecheck after my post and found out I was right originally at 40.
Someone please show me a situation where a coach kneeled the ball three times and risked getting a punt blocked when he couldn't run the clock out at the end of the game. Maybe happens all the time but I doubt it.
Every other coach in that situation tries to get a first down to finish off the game. Every one.
Plenty to criticize, but spending as much time on this as some have is just dumb.
Every other coach in that situation tries to get a first down to finish off the game. Every one.
Plenty to criticize, but spending as much time on this as some have is just dumb.
Here is worst case senario to what should have happened:
1:31- ISU ball- 1st and 10
-:04 (1:27)- ISU kneel down- KSU timeout- 2nd and 12
-:04 (1:23)- ISU kneel down- 3rd and 14
-:3944)- Play clock run down
-:04
Game clock runs out-
END OF ******* GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thought he said he did not want to punt.
Did someone say to kick a low punt if you are punting with 6 seconds left? I can't think of a dumber thing to do.
I never listen to Woody about this team...he's too close to it to be an objective voice.
Sorry but that's just not true. I've seen coaches have the qb run around behind the line of scrimmage to take more time off the clock before he takes a knee, and had we done that on the first 3 downs there would have been only a few seconds left when we snapped the ball on 4th, and Joel runs around for those few seconds and takes a knee after the clock runs out. That way you neither have to punt nor expose the ball carrier to the tacklers. But then the coach has to be thinking ahead and know the clock and time out situation.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I've seen that for one play, but never three plays and then a punt. If you know of an instance I'll admit I was wrong.
It is much more common, in fact, REGULAR to see a team attempt to get the first down in that situation to avoid the need to punt and effectively ends the game.
Just saying, refer me to a game where a P5 team intentionally ran the ball backward three plays and then punted possession away to the opposing team at the end of a 7 point game.
This is ISU. We have to be unconventional sometimes in order to get wins. This was one of those times. We had just seen Warren fumble only a few minutes earlier. It was time to do something different, something K-State wouldn't have expected. You and anyone else can say "but no one has ever done that before, show me a team that has," but the fact is we've done things conventionally and lost TOO many times. Do something different and get a god damn win for a change.
