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Rewatch the play. The other defender (not forte) slapped Melvins left arm. Clear foul. I'm sure it was the asshat John Higgins down there that didn't call it.

Should have been called. Obvious clear-out rebound on the part of Ejim and they both reached in.... the first guy (not forte) clearly fouled...and considering OSU was sitting at 5 Fouls total in the 2nd half...the whistle should have been blown. It was a "frustration-foul" on their part... nope, the refs jobbed us there. If our jersey's had Kansas across the chest in that scenario.... that always gets the whistle.

Don't even get me started on Ejim's clear block too and the foul called on him. We absolutly got beat by the refs in the game last night. These led to little free-throws for OSU to creep right back in it. The guys played well, good enough to win on the road. The refs had other plans. It's my opinion....and we had one stolen from us.
 
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How about the blocking foul that wasn't called on Ejim that helped OSU miss the shot on said play? Re-watch the last two minutes, the refs didn't cause us to lose, we didn't score caused us to lose.
 

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How about the blocking foul that wasn't called on Ejim that helped OSU miss the shot on said play? Re-watch the last two minutes, the refs didn't cause us to lose, we didn't score caused us to lose.

It always baffles me how there can still be some who shrug their shoulders at blatantly terrible calls and continue to simply state we needed to score more points. I agree we pi$$ed a few leads down our legs but you know what, the last lead we lost was ripped and torn out of our hands, literally.
 

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These are the plays that make Melvin so frustrating. His intelligence is in the classroom, not on the court. He makes one or two boneheaded plays a game. I thought he cost us the game two seasons ago in Stillwater. Last night's turnover/foul was the turning point in the game. This loss wasn't his fault, but if we retain possession there, OSU might have had to force some offense late.

Couldn't agree more.
 

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It always baffles me how there can still be some who shrug their shoulders at blatantly terrible calls and continue to simply state we needed to score more points. I agree we pi$$ed a few leads down our legs but you know what, the last lead we lost was ripped and torn out of our hands, literally.


Do you realize that our last score was at 2:16 left in the game? That we had 5 possessions after that which produced zero points? That the ripped out of our hands possession we still had the lead going into our next possession?

So how do we win close games finishing like that? Baffle me with your answer, I'll be waiting.
 

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My guess is, even though he had guys open, there were two guys on him and he isn't exactly the most athletic guy.

Should he have called timeout? Yes.

Is that play the reason we lost this game? Or the refs calls? Or Hoibergs timeouts? Or Clyburn letting guys cut right to the hoop without challenging them? Or Okie State nailing that halfcourt buzzer beater?

I really don't think any single topic cost us the game.

I do, however, think we beat ourselves, and not the other way around.

Melvin isn't athletic?
 

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My guess is, even though he had guys open, there were two guys on him and he isn't exactly the most athletic guy.

Should he have called timeout? Yes.

Is that play the reason we lost this game? Or the refs calls? Or Hoibergs timeouts? Or Clyburn letting guys cut right to the hoop without challenging them? Or Okie State nailing that halfcourt buzzer beater?

I really don't think any single topic cost us the game.

I do, however, think we beat ourselves, and not the other way around.


Melvin isn't athletic?

I was going to address this too - Ejim is very athletic.
 

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Im with the OP. This was a game changer. Ejim looked like he had rocks in his head during this stretch. Fred obviously agrees because he pulled Ejim out immediately after this stretch. Typical homer cyclone fans beating up on op for posting an honest and reasonable thought.
 

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Im with the OP. This was a game changer. Ejim looked like he had rocks in his head during this stretch. Fred obviously agrees because he pulled Ejim out immediately after this stretch. Typical homer cyclone fans beating up on op for posting an honest and reasonable thought.

Likely took him out because he was frustrated and had just picked up his fourth foul. I don't really agree with you though, he maybe should have called a timeout after he got trapped, but that doesn't change the fact he got hacked right across the arm on that play, and the block he had possibly could have been the game winner for us but instead they called a totally bogus foul and okie state tied it up.
 

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Im with the OP. This was a game changer. Ejim looked like he had rocks in his head during this stretch. Fred obviously agrees because he pulled Ejim out immediately after this stretch. Typical homer cyclone fans beating up on op for posting an honest and reasonable thought.

So you hate Ejim?
 

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All this being said, I LOVE me some Ejim. He is the straw that stirs the drink. Plus he is our quasi Goon. Every good team needs a goon.
 

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Do you realize that our last score was at 2:16 left in the game? That we had 5 possessions after that which produced zero points? That the ripped out of our hands possession we still had the lead going into our next possession?

So how do we win close games finishing like that? Baffle me with your answer, I'll be waiting.

You sound like someone who watched the game on an update tracker online. If I had been watching a score feed rather than the actual game play and calls (why didn't I do that?) I'd be more likely to be down on our team as the sole reason we lost.
 
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You sound like someone who watched the game on an update tracker online. If I had been watching a score feed rather than the actual game play and calls (why didn't I do that?) I'd be more likely to be down on our team as the sole reason we lost.

I'll give you credit, that is a pretty good comeback. A day late, but nice effort!

Actually I saw us commit multiple fouls as well in the last few minutes that also weren't called, so those canceled out in my head.
 

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I agree with the original poster that this was a surprisingly and extremely disappointing play. However, the real reason we lost Wednesday was because our bigs get in foul trouble, which means they have to play soft defense at the end of the game. Look at our three conference losses. Our defense late in those games is just pitiful.