I hope all of you barnes and unc lovers are cheering for Creighton to win the CBI. Doug is a Iowa kid, an Ames graduate, a freshman All-American. And has better stats then barnes. 15 points, 7.6 rebounds, FG% 52% . barnes-15.7 points, 5.8 rebounds, FG% 43%. Yet I've never seen a McDermott post on here.
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There's no denying that both are great players, but Barnes was the #1 recruit in the nation, so he's obviously going to draw more attention.
Doug seems to be a very solid player at the college level, so it makes me wonder why Greg steered him away from committing to ISU before he left. Did he think his son wouldn't be able to contribute @ ISU or did he already fear the end was near?.......interesting to think about.
Doug seems to be a very solid player at the college level, so it makes me wonder why Greg steered him away from committing to ISU before he left. Did he think his son wouldn't be able to contribute @ ISU or did he already fear the end was near?.......interesting to think about.
Good for Doug, but let's get real. UNC played against a top 10 SOS while Creighton's was middle of the pack at best.
Greg advised his son well to avoid a steady diet of Big 12 front lines and elect to play against MVC post players who don't measure up in terms of size/athleticism. The same holds for the teams that CU is playing in the CBI - Oregon is woefully undersized and Davidson's front line featured the immortal Clinton Mann.
Doug is well liked and respected on this board IMO.
I know I hope he does well in his career. Only problem is his dad ran our program into the ground so I suspect a lot of people aren't rooting for Creighton but I bet most people hope Doug tears it up.
I know I hope he does well in his career. Only problem is his dad ran our program into the ground so I suspect a lot of people aren't rooting for Creighton but I bet most people hope Doug tears it up.
I'm happy he is doing well, but if one person in the world knew if he was good enough to play in the Big 12 or not is was his dad. He is a phenomenal young player in the MVC.
You do know that barnes stunk in the pre-conference against the good teams they played. When they got into the crappy ACC he got better and raised his p.p.g for the year to almost 16 (wow).
So if the ACC gets a "crappy" label for being the 5th ranked conference, what does the MVC get for being 12th?
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No, people just don't want to reply to a clown like you. What are you? 12? I'm curious how many times you put 40 up against a division one basketball team? High school isn't out for a couple of months, not very nice to go against mom's bedtime orders.
That increase in production was also after Marshall became the point guard. Think that's just a coincidence? Larry Drew held that team back so much it wasn't even funny. And you really think that the ACC isn't better than the MVC? Are you really willing to take your contempt for Barnes THAT far?
As mentioned, Doug is Greg's son, so there's a slightly different context there. Barnes is also much higher profile, to put it in simple terms.
And to the poster who asked why Greg steered Doug away from ISU: I'm not saying that Doug didn't see the writing on the wall, but it can't be easy to coach your own son at this level, either. Ferentz gets away with it because his sons have been linemen. But look at Dan/Cody Hawkins at Colorado. In basketball, there aren't really any players that are the same kind of "unsung player" as an offensive lineman in football. If Doug didn't perform, things would have gotten very ugly, very quickly for both of Greg and Doug. Just another possible explanation.
Hey, we have a F.I.B here. I don't know how to reply because you don't make sense. Add those 40 to the rest of his total for the year and it still adds up to 15.7 points average. Wow.
All I heard was how barnes could play in the NBA besides his sorry stats because he could " create his own shot ". Now your'e saying he needed a point guard to get shots for him?
I've gone on record as saying I don't think he's ready for the NBA. He's got all the talent, but I don't feel that he's ready.
But the fact that you CONTINUE to rag on him is just pathetic. If you don't want to read about him on this site, then don't open the threads about him. It's pretty simple. Even simpler: don't START threads about him. The kid made his choice, there's not thing one you can do about it, and it was the right choice for him. Let. It. Go.
I love to read about him on this site. It's funny how all you barnes lovers still don't reply to this thread. McDermott had a better year personally, but why aren't you on hear talking about him? Is it all the ESPN hype he got.
Please explain how McDermott had a better year? Barnes outscored him (albeit not by much), also had more assists, blocks, and steals per game. And his team was playing in the Elite Eight this weekend.
McDermott's team is playing for the CBI title.
And if your argument is that McDermott put up similar numbers against equal or better competition, then you've really lost all credibility. The MVC is nowhere near the ACC this year, even while the ACC is down.
Also, your big "BOOM" comment was posted after midnight. You really expected a long line just waiting to refute you at that time? You're just THAT good at stimulating conversation?
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barnes outscored him by .7 points a game. McDermott had 2 more rebounds a game. barnes had like 1.4 assits per game to Mc's prob' 1. And I'll argue that barnes didn't have Greg McDermott as a coach holding him back. Beat that.
You think 1.4 to 1.2 assists per game is any difference? Blocks and steals for both were under 1 per game, and guess what? McD shot better from behind the 3 point line then barney.(Can you believe that?). Time to turn in your credits and go back to swaukeyenation.com where you came from.Please explain how McDermott had a better year? Barnes outscored him (albeit not by much), also had more assists, blocks, and steals per game. And his team was playing in the Elite Eight this weekend.
McDermott's team is playing for the CBI title.
And if your argument is that McDermott put up similar numbers against equal or better competition, then you've really lost all credibility. The MVC is nowhere near the ACC this year, even while the ACC is down.
Also, your big "BOOM" comment was posted after midnight. You really expected a long line just waiting to refute you at that time? You're just THAT good at stimulating conversation?
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