Devries or TJ poll
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Are we the 52 or the 50?
Outside of the year where he struck lightning in a bottle, he's been pretty terrible at SC.
No, you're obviously confused for some reason and I will re-state it for your sole benefit:
Prohm had zero P6 assistant coaching experience prior to coming to ISU.
TJO and DeVries both have extensive and successful experience as P6 assistants while Nagy only has GA P6 experience that dates back to 1988-90.
Even that doesn't necessarily mean a lot - remember Chris Beard was fired along with the rest of the Pat Knight staff at Texas Tech.
One wonders where are the other Chris Beards around the country - assistants on losing staffs - who could be great head coaches?
I'm not sure what this means.
Prohm recruits ok at the top end. Wayne Morgan even seemed to be able to recruit. Not the best results.
The TJ recruiting hard on came while he was an assistant coach.
X's & O's and team building are our issues now. Get a head coach to do that and rely on assistants, like usual, to recruit.
I don't even care about prior experience. But get a guy who knows the game and can lead. Not sure prohm can do either.
I think Craig Smith of Utah State would be my first choice. I like his teams hustle and their style of play. A lot of ball movement on offense, physical defense and they rebound. He and staff have been together for a number of years and USU and SD. Reminds be of the history between Campbell and his staff. I also like the fact one of his assistants has strong international recruiting ties.
If JP is looking for a guy with experience I would look at Anthony Grant or Travis Steele (Xavier). Motta would be worth a look, he knows how to win at a high level.
The good thing about TJ is Pollard knows exactly what he is getting, so his struggles at UNLV aren't such a big deal. I have no problem with DeVries. He seems to have an eye for players who aren't spectacular, but get the job done. The team is much better than the individual players and he has a number of players who can step up.
My BIG issue with Prohm is there is no team ball- each guy is looking for his shot. No matter how bad a shot it is.
I think TJ, DeVries and Smith would all do a great job of recruiting areas we should be strong: Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin.
If JP is looking for a guy with experience I would look at Anthony Grant or Travis Steele (Xavier). Motta would be worth a look, he knows how to win at a high level.
The good thing about TJ is Pollard knows exactly what he is getting, so his struggles at UNLV aren't such a big deal. I have no problem with DeVries. He seems to have an eye for players who aren't spectacular, but get the job done. The team is much better than the individual players and he has a number of players who can step up.
My BIG issue with Prohm is there is no team ball- each guy is looking for his shot. No matter how bad a shot it is.
I think TJ, DeVries and Smith would all do a great job of recruiting areas we should be strong: Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin.
It means we hire mid major coaches, assistants, and former players with no coaching experience. So expect the next coach to come from the same places.
That’s fine with me if they know the game and have a personality that can lead. I agree, it hasn’t been consistently successful for us though.
Is Hoiberg that great of a coach? Did he just catch lightning in a bottle with Morris, Niang, and Royce?
I do not think it was lightning in a bottle. Fred had a plan and it was pretty effective as it played out. Unfortunately, the style of play and recruiting niches he utilized are a lot more common to the teams you compete against now and do not give a team the advantages they once did. It is important to remember that the unique nature of the Niang/Royce piece on those teams does help a bunch when designing an offense around them. Players like that are not common, which is why Fred struggles so much now.
Who out there is an innovator?
If Pollard is drawing exclusively from the mid-major pool and there's no home-run hire plan, Nagy's gotta be on the map. He might not be the way to go, but there's more to his body of work as head coach to assess, compared to Otz & DeVries.
I'm open to hearing assessments why he'd be a no-go.
Well then...........Frank Martin it is. He trumps T.J. and DeVries in every head coaching category. Or did he not get enough P6 assistant experience back in 1965?
I think if things don't get squared away soon in Husker land.......your question will have merit. Because many will ask how much of it was Lutz and Sadler, who both had years of head coaching experience.
