"Arrested Development" and "Gilligan's Island" still neck-and-neck. If Gilligan reaches Elite 8, that would be the be the biggest shocker of the tournament, in my view.
"Arrested Development" and "Gilligan's Island" still neck-and-neck. If Gilligan reaches Elite 8, that would be the be the biggest shocker of the tournament, in my view.
@madguy30 and @Gonzo made some good observations previously, with varied details, I won't add much to that for now (maybe later if I have more time). I think the dynamic of Sam & Diane was better than Sam/Rebecca (Diane was the "hinge" character for the series premise).Really thought Curb would be giving Cheers more of a battle. Haven't seen much of either show but if I remember correctly I heard people say great things about it since it's from Larry David the guy behind Seinfeld.
To me Cheers never impressed me but I was young when it was on in real time. Iconic theme song but a show based on people just sitting around a bar never drew me in as a syndication viewer.
Maybe some people can help me on Cheers too.
@madguy30 and @Gonzo made some good observations previously, with varied details, I won't add much to that for now (maybe later if I have more time). I think the dynamic of Sam & Diane was better than Sam/Rebecca (Diane was the "hinge" character for the series premise).
But that change, which came midway through, still worked because by that time it didn't have to carry the load, surrounding characters were focal points of an entire episode. That's at least four familiar characters to build side stories & such.
As for your assessment at the time It's possible it resonated more with some of us "geezers" who were into adulthood already at the time of its run.
Imo expanding the discussion on shows is no different than how tourney/game threads go so let's have at it!
Sam/Diane was a better dynamic but Rebecca being a hot mess may have been a big part of what kept the show going since it provided so much material. Didn't her relationship with Robin basically help carry a season or two?
Imo expanding the discussion on shows is no different than how tourney/game threads go so let's have at it!
Sam/Diane was a better dynamic but Rebecca being a hot mess may have been a big part of what kept the show going since it provided so much material. Didn't her relationship with Robin basically help carry a season or two?
Fun fact, Joel Polis, who played Gary the owner of the rival bar Gary's Olde Town Tavern in Cheers, also played Reilly in Seinfeld, George's fellow NY Yankees employee whose tortuous wit brought about the famous "jerk store" comeback.Imo expanding the discussion on shows is no different than how tourney/game threads go so let's have at it!
Sam/Diane was a better dynamic but Rebecca being a hot mess may have been a big part of what kept the show going since it provided so much material. Didn't her relationship with Robin basically help carry a season or two?
I wasn't aware of that trivia nugget. I don't know how I never made the visual connection between the two when I watched the jerk store episode. Maybe too much time had elapsed since I had seen Cheers, but considering how often Gary was featured especially during that one season, you'd think my memory would've been better.Fun fact, Joel Polis, who played Gary the owner of the rival bar Gary's Olde Town Tavern in Cheers, also played Reilly in Seinfeld, George's fellow NY Yankees employee whose tortuous wit brought about the famous "jerk store" comeback.
He didn't play Gary the entire time. He was one of two actors who portrayed Gary, I think the other actor played him in the early episodes and then Joel Polis took over after, but not certain of the sequence there. Easily one of the best sitcom heels of all time.I wasn't aware of that trivia nugget. I don't know how I never made the visual connection between the two when I watched the jerk store episode. Maybe too much time had elapsed since I had seen Cheers, but considering how often Gary was featured especially during that one season, you'd think my memory would've been better.
That would be a stunner IMO.10 hours to go and arrested and Gilligan are all tied up.