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madguy30

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It's just a credit to the greatness of the Big 10 coaches. It's really amazing how they all really start improving about, say, week 5.

But then that improvement comes back to bite them come bowl season since they were all beating up on each other so badly that a bowl game 4 weeks later is too hard, while the other conferences--wait--does anyone actually know what the other conferences' teams do during the season?
 

AuH2O

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That's why you have to have some sort of "eye test" and can't just look at the numbers. We all know bama is top 4 team in the country but just haven't played good teams yet.
No, you rank them based on their résumé. As the year goes on and they actually play someone food and beat them you move them up. When there are only 3-4 games outside of conferences, with most being FCS or G5 games no one really knows. Again conventional wisdom based on the eye test in 2007 was that tOSU and Michigan were clearly the two best teams. Then Florida absolutely piss pounded OSU. It was Stanford over Iowa level domination.

Point is, if you are going to put in a team that doesn't win it's conference title game, their résumé better be clearly better than a team getting left out. Realistically they had a win and you're in situation and blew it. If they really knew its one thing, but they don't. There simply aren't enough data points to be sure.
 
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What do you mean it isn't the point? The point is to put the 4 BEST teams in a playoff. So if the loser is the #2 team in the country why shouldn't they be in the playoff.
Because we don't play enough games across conference to have any real clue who the best 4 teams really is. Most games are played intraconference and it has made too many mistakes. The cfp was suppose to fix that personally I wish the big 12 wouldn't have backed the sec in stopping the must win conference criteria. We shot ourselves in the foot thinking we could get 2 in a lot. The biases are real sometimes correct sometimes incorrect. We know that one team lost the conference championship therefore they shouldn't get in and have a second shot.

Because no the point isnt probably getting the best 4 teams in it is trying to findicate out who thee best team is and crown a national title. Replaying a game played a couple weeks before does not do that and is unfair to the team that just beat them.
 
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Every year, the AP poll ranks teams and nobody seems to bat an eye too much....but when the CFP poll comes out, everyone wants to challenge the rankings. Why can't we use one poll for an entire season instead of confusing everyone when one measure of how good a team is gets replaced by another?
 

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Thought it was pretty funny that the initial thoughts from Galloway and Herbstreit were both about how Ohio State should be ahead of Oklahoma. Shocking coming from them. They both were pretty quiet on that topic after the rankings came out though. After they both campaigned for Ohio State to jump TCU in 2014 I have really lost some respect for them and think this process is very flawed. They are unable to separate their alma mater from their rational decision-making; imagine what the people on the committee are doing along those lines.
 
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No, you rank them based on their résumé. As the year goes on and they actually play someone food and beat them you move them up. When there are only 3-4 games outside of conferences, with most being FCS or G5 games no one really knows. Again conventional wisdom based on the eye test in 2007 was that tOSU and Michigan were clearly the two best teams. Then Florida absolutely piss pounded OSU. It was Stanford over Iowa level domination.

Point is, if you are going to put in a team that doesn't win it's conference title game, their résumé better be clearly better than a team getting left out. Realistically they had a win and you're in situation and blew it. If they really knew its one thing, but they don't. There simply aren't enough data points to be sure.
I'd agree with you if it was any other team, Alabama is just a totally different beast.
 

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Thought it was pretty funny that the initial thoughts from Galloway and Herbstreit were both about how Ohio State should be ahead of Oklahoma. Shocking coming from them. They both were pretty quiet on that topic after the rankings came out though. After they both campaigned for Ohio State to jump TCU in 2014 I have really lost some respect for them and think this process is very flawed. They are unable to separate their alma mater from their rational decision-making; imagine what the people on the committee are doing along those lines.

I thought it was rational decision-making. All depends on the perception of the one receiving the info.:cool:
 

cyIclSoneU

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I thought it was rational decision-making. All depends on the perception of the one receiving the info.:cool:

You can argue from case to case, including this one, but Galloway and Herbstreit have been pro-Ohio State literally every time I can remember there being an arguable question surrounding the Buckeyes.
 

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Every year, the AP poll ranks teams and nobody seems to bat an eye too much....but when the CFP poll comes out, everyone wants to challenge the rankings. Why can't we use one poll for an entire season instead of confusing everyone when one measure of how good a team is gets replaced by another?
I agree, do away with the AP poll. and start the CFP poll week 3 or 4. No more counting ranked wins from preseason rankings. If you beat a team and they are still ranked after week 3 you can count it as a win against their week 3 ranking.
 
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tolfbfan

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You can argue from case to case, including this one, but Galloway and Herbstreit have been pro-Ohio State literally every time I can remember there being an arguable question surrounding the Buckeyes.

I agree with that and think they show awesome knowledge and commitment when being homers for THE OH-IO STATE BUCKEYES.
 

ISpyCy

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I agree, do away with the AP poll. and start the CFP poll week 3 or 4. No more counting ranked wins from preseason rankings. If you beat a team and they are still ranked after week 3 you can count it as a win against their week 3 ranking.
Could encourage powerhouse teams to schedule tougher opponents to bolster their resume. On the other hand, I don't think Hok fans will appreciate not having anyway to justify being the better team in the State, even when it doesn't matter.
 

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It’s confusing to care about this poll.
 

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Get the voters out of it. Conference champs only expand to 8 spots. 1st 5 spots go to conference champ no matter the record. In any given year who is to say that losing 3 games in XII isn't better than losing 1 in B1G. Then last 3 spots go to next ranked teams in order (so voters I guess get some say but only for BOTTOM 3 spots). Also, no regular season matchup rematches in 1st round of playoff.
 

IAStubborn

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That's why you have to have some sort of "eye test" and can't just look at the numbers. We all know bama is top 4 team in the country but just haven't played good teams yet.
No they will play teams with a pulse just like when the eye test had Baylor #2 bUT they hadn't played anyone and cfp put them at #6 knowing they would be tested and have there chance. They lost. Alabama should be around 6 right now too. They win against LSU they go up, against Georgia they are back on top. It is absurd they are #2 right now.
 
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AuH2O

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I'd agree with you if it was any other team, Alabama is just a totally different beast.
They very well could be, but pretty much everyone else in the top
10 has beaten unranked teams as handily as Alabama has. Plus people had a similar view of the 2006 Buckeyes, then they got curb stomped by Florida.
 

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