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crablegs

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The jury is so in on 165 and 174 they've gone home and gone back to work the next day already. No questions anymore. I don't understand how this sentiment persists.
We have a guy who was R12 last year on the bench and are starting a guy who didn’t even qualify for NCAA last year and is getting dominated by every wrestler with a pulse that he faces. You don’t see how there are questions here?
 

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We have a guy who was R12 last year on the bench and are starting a guy who didn’t even qualify for NCAA last year and is getting dominated by every wrestler with a pulse that he faces. You don’t see how there are questions here?
The answer is so obvious it feels like I'm being trolled here. The R12 guy should stop trying to drop a weight since he was swept in a wrestleoff and go back to the weight where he achieved R12 and was ranked just outside the top 10 to start the year. This allows us to keep Euton, who has been extremely competitive with multiple top 5 wrestlers. What is the actual question or alternative you see as even remotely as viable as this?
 

crablegs

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The answer is so obvious it feels like I'm being trolled here. The R12 guy should stop trying to drop a weight since he was swept in a wrestleoff and go back to the weight where he achieved R12 and was ranked just outside the top 10 to start the year. This allows us to keep Euton, who has been extremely competitive with multiple top 5 wrestlers. What is the actual question or alternative you see as even remotely as viable as this?
Maybe he should do that. You’re the one that said the weights are settled. I was just pointing out why people keep wondering about it.
 

iastatefan1

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The answer is so obvious it feels like I'm being trolled here. The R12 guy should stop trying to drop a weight since he was swept in a wrestleoff and go back to the weight where he achieved R12 and was ranked just outside the top 10 to start the year. This allows us to keep Euton, who has been extremely competitive with multiple top 5 wrestlers. What is the actual question or alternative you see as even remotely as viable as this?
Wrestling is an individual sport first. Our best lineup is probably euton gaitan, but if gaitan can get on podium/finish higher you go gaitan 65 and let euton/field compete for 74. He may feel he didn't wrestle well his first time down to 65. It's imo too early for dresser to force him to give up 65 especially coming back from some injury as well.
 

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Maybe he should do that. You’re the one that said the weights are settled. I was just pointing out why people keep wondering about it.
And I was wondering why it's so difficult for you to acknowledge someone else's point of view without being an a-hole about it.
 
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matclone

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Wrestling is an individual sport first. Our best lineup is probably euton gaitan, but if gaitan can get on podium/finish higher you go gaitan 65 and let euton/field compete for 74. He may feel he didn't wrestle well his first time down to 65. It's imo too early for dresser to force him to give up 65 especially coming back from some injury as well.
Last year and the year before that, Euton was listed on the roster at 157. Gaitain at 174 and 165 respectively. Gaitan is obviously taller. So there may be a little difference in body size.
 

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Let me say this, Euton is one tough mofo. Has MJ been hurt? My headscratcher would have been put MJ back up at 174 in the Iowa dual. Obviously Brands new Riggings got crushed by the Iowa kid in the room while he was there. MJ would have been a good curve ball for us. But again, WTH do I know, because if MJ is healthy, he is next man up at 165.
 

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Maybe he should do that. You’re the one that said the weights are settled. I was just pointing out why people keep wondering about it.
The weights aren’t settled but what is settled is there is no optimal lineup with riggins or Tate in it. If we end up having Euton and Gaitan at 165 while riggins and Tate man 174 for the year we will need to put dresser in a home.
 
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