I also think an ACC-style split would be most likely if the Big 12 were ever to expand back to 12 teams. Two Texas schools per division and probably one Oklahoma school in each as well so everybody keeps that southern access for recruiting.
Cincinnati and Memphis to the Big 12?
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I also think an ACC-style split would be most likely if the Big 12 were ever to expand back to 12 teams. Two Texas schools per division and probably one Oklahoma school in each as well so everybody keeps that southern access for recruiting.
His source? Common sense.
You don't invite anyone that drops per team payout, and you certainly don't invite Memphis and Cincinnati as a response to the committee needing to paint a target around their arrow or how much you like the road trip to a nice street in an otherwise **** hole city like Memphis.
That would really dilute the $. They will add only 2 unless someone like Notre Dame came on board.
BYU has a national following which would help. Colorado State gets the Big 12 the Denver market back. That's over 3 million more eyeballs. Cincinnati is in a multi million person market. Boise State is the one I don't think would help at all.
If we had to add two, right now I want Cincinnati and Memphis
If we have to add four, give me Cincy, Memphis, and Uconn. We've already established geography no longer matters.
Agree.. Best scenario.. Think BIG... Add 4... Raid the ACC... Mirror the SEC... The $'s will follow
Denver is a pro sports town - mostly Broncos. They hardly pay attention to Colorado and CSU is even lower on the total pole. The only way I see taking CSU is a bridge to BYU but that's a big reach
I just don't see our tv deal increasing by $80MM / year because of those 4 teams. I think by going west is not a good long term solution, more traveling and now you are covering 3 time zones. Flying cross country mid week is not what these student athletes need, this is not the NBA.
Need to prevent this from being a knee jerk reaction to the final 4 teams. Even if TCU and Baylor played in a conference champ game, there is still a good chance the committee would have taken OSU, because of the name on the helmet.
I don't think TV markets matter as much as good matchups. The BTN model needs new markets to get on to basic or lower cable tiers, getting the per subscriber $. Big 12 is with ESPN and Fox, both are already on most basic tiers (not all the FSNs, but the OTAs and basic cable ESPNU/FS1), where a good matchup brings the eyeballs/advertiser money.
This would ruin the perfect geography, but trading TCU and OU between those would give the divisions TX/OK balance as well.
If we're going for a project I say let's see what Ohio U can turn into with big xII money for a few years. Gets us in B1G land and good Ohio recruiting. Expands our TV footprint. Gives us a travel partner for WV. A team that ISU should be competitive to. Avoids stigma of commuter schools and directional schools.
what if Missouri AND nebraska joined the Big 12. Seems like a perfect fit culturally and geographically. Maybe we should ask them. :realmad:
I would prefer NIU over Memphis, its 60 minutes from Chicago, it would bring a better TV viewing area than Memphis, along with Cincinnati brings in Ohio area. College population size are shown below
Cincinati 40000..... / TTU .......35000 / Ames......33000/ WVU.....29000 so the size is comparable.
NIU .....15814 / Baylor ....13292 / TCU .....9725 , NIU is larger than Baylor and TCU. So these two schools would be a proper fit academically and athletically in our conference. Both school between ISU and WVU could help develop a Northern division along with Kansas and K-state. It would help us recruit in the Chicago and Ohio areas.
Just my take on it.
Go Cyclones.
