Can we make a big run this year?

CyJack13

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Is this about a kid's ceiling or about the potential for this season? I'm pretty sure that you responded to a post that was clearly talking about the teams this season. I don't care in this discussion about how good he may be as a senior, how good will he be this year as a true freshman? Do you think that he will be better than Korie this year?

Since Gessel hasn't played a game yet, I can't say. Early in the year I would take Korie, by the end of the season I think there's a good chance Gessel is better.
 

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Peteypie do you even watch Iowa Basketball at all? Or are you just a homer all the way? Because White is a damn good basketball player. Marble is a damn good player too. And comparing White to Gibson is unfair since one can play the perimeter and the other is a big guy down low who is 265. If you want to compare Gibson to Basabe that would be better but Basabe is a better all around player too. Remember a little thing called defense is taken into factor. And guess what I am a cyclone fan...not a hawk. There is just a difference between being a homer and being realistic.
I think Percy is underrated. If he works and plays hard, he will be dynamite by the time he graduates.
 

peteypie

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I think Percy is underrated. If he works and plays hard, he will be dynamite by the time he graduates.

Exactly, I think some of our own fans underestimate Percy. Like I said before he scored plenty with the minutes he received. With an expanded role, I think he just produces more. He led the team in FG%.
 

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I would take White over Gibson in a second, that's not even close. And I think it's too early to say on Gessel vs. Korie, but Gessel has a much high ceiling than Luscious. I'd also take McCabe over Booker.

lol are you really comparing White vs Gibson? We might as well start comparing Clyburn vs Woodberry. They have about as much in common as white and Gibson do. Your also vastly underestimating Gibson who has a lot of upside.

Iowa will rely on two freshman to play point guard this year and a freshman at the center position who was not very impressive in their summer league. There also hoping marble and white will continue where they left off last year and basabe to bounce back after a disappointing sophomore year.

Sorry ill take the team relying on proven 5th year seniors any day
 

peteypie

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So we should expect to lose to Iowa now because they apparently have much more talent than us at many of the skill positions. I was wrong. Gessel is better than Korie, Marble is better than Babb, White is better than Percy, Woodbury is better than anyone.

So while we may make a good run, do not expect it to start until after we lose the Iowa game.
 

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I'm not scared of Iowa at all this season. We definitely could choke and lose but talent wise we are miles in front of them.
 

CyJack13

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lol are you really comparing White vs Gibson? We might as well start comparing Clyburn vs Woodberry. They have about as much in common as white and Gibson do. Your also vastly underestimating Gibson who has a lot of upside.

Iowa will rely on two freshman to play point guard this year and a freshman at the center position who was not very impressive in their summer league. There also hoping marble and white will continue where they left off last year and basabe to bounce back after a disappointing sophomore year.

Sorry ill take the team relying on proven 5th year seniors any day

I didn't make the original comparison, peteypie did. But both are natural 4's so it's really not a crazy comparison, different types of players obviously. I'm not underestimating Gibson, I'm just properly evaluating White. The kid averaged 11 and 6 and shot over 50% as a freshman in the B10, getting better as the season went on. He's very good.
 

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I'm not scared of Iowa at all this season. We definitely could choke and lose but talent wise we are miles in front of them.

Another thing people seem to be ingnoring is Iowas defense. Iowas starting five will consist of

1 gessel
2 marble
3 white
4 mccabe/basabe
5 woodurry

Even iowa homers will admit both marble and white lack lateral quickness. So who on Iowa is going to guard clyburn? Iowa plays no defense. There's a reason they gave up 108 points to Oregon at the end of the season. Meanwhile this is the best defensive team isu has had in probably atleast a decade? Iowas leading scorer will probably be marble which he will just get Babbed so im mot worried about him. if ejim can hold his own againt KUs robinson he will do just fine guarding iowa 4s. Percy and booker should be fine at the 5 againt woodburry. And at point guard 5th year senior > true freshman. When you you breakdown the match ups it's really hard to be worried about the Iowa game other than its at Iowa
 

CyJack13

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So we should expect to lose to Iowa now because they apparently have much more talent than us at many of the skill positions. I was wrong. Gessel is better than Korie, Marble is better than Babb, White is better than Percy, Woodbury is better than anyone.

So while we may make a good run, do not expect it to start until after we lose the Iowa game.

Just curious, what kind of numbers do you think Luscious will put up this season?
 

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So we should expect to lose to Iowa now because they apparently have much more talent than us at many of the skill positions. I was wrong. Gessel is better than Korie, Marble is better than Babb, White is better than Percy, Woodbury is better than anyone.

So while we may make a good run, do not expect it to start until after we lose the Iowa game.

Expect to lose? No. Realize it's a possibility? Yes. You sound like an Iowa fan who exaggerates somebody's opinion and then criticizes it.

Some people can't take off the rose colored glasses. I run into them all of the time.
 
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peteypie

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I didn't make the original comparison, peteypie did. But both are natural 4's so it's really not a crazy comparison, different types of players obviously. I'm not underestimating Gibson, I'm just properly evaluating White. The kid averaged 11 and 6 and shot over 50% as a freshman in the B10, getting better as the season went on. He's very good.

And Gibson averaged 5 and 2 in only 11 minutes of action a game and shot 65 % in the big 12. Aaron did his in 23 minutes a game. Percy just didn't play that much because we had Royce. Per minute they are very comparable with FG% in Percy's favor. They both lacked on defence. Aaron is not much ahead of Percy as one may think, if at all. Personally I'd take Percy. He has proved he can score against anyone including Anthony Davis. Of course he hasn't seen Woodbury yet though.
 

peteypie

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Expect to lose? No. Realize it's a possibility? Yes. You sound like an Iowa fan who exaggerates somebody's opinion and then criticizes it.

Some people can't take off the rose colored glasses. I run into them all of the time.

Wrong, I said a long time ago, multiple times, it's possible that we lose to them. My argument is we are way more skilled than them almost from top to bottom.

But go ahead and put words into my mouth, who sounds like a Hawk with that?
 

peteypie

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Expect to lose? No. Realize it's a possibility? Yes. You sound like an Iowa fan who exaggerates somebody's opinion and then criticizes it.

Some people can't take off the rose colored glasses. I run into them all of the time.

And the only exaggeration there was the Woodbury one. All of the others have been expressed recently in this thread by our own fan base. I just don't get it.
 

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I would take marble and white as starters on our team until babb finds his stroke or ejim shoots it a bit better from deep. I do acknowledge that those guys don't play d at a high level,
 

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So we should expect to lose to Iowa now because they apparently have much more talent than us at many of the skill positions. I was wrong. Gessel is better than Korie, Marble is better than Babb, White is better than Percy, Woodbury is better than anyone.

So while we may make a good run, do not expect it to start until after we lose the Iowa game.

Nobody is saying Iowa has more talent...you are just making it sound like we are head and shoulders better than them. You say Babb is better than Marble. Okay, that is a fair argument, but he is not way better if he is. Im sure if Marble wanted to be a lock down defender he could be a stud defender and average 9 points a game and 4 rebounds with low shooting percentages. You talk about Gibson. Well he did shoot a high percentage and appears to have a good offensive game, but where is his defense? What makes him a better player than Basabe?
 

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