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Clark

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CY88CE11 said:
The Atlanta Braves have acquired Justin Upton from the Arizona Diamondbacks - sources - ESPN

This deal likely gives them the best defensive AND offensive outfield in baseball. Hurts a bit to see Prado go, but he'd be gone after the coming year anyway. The lineup is now powerful enough that watching them compete with the pitchers of the Nationals this year is going to be exciting.
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I'd say the Angels have them beat in both with a starting outfield of Hamilton, Trout, and Bourjos.
 
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Clark said:
I'd say the Angels have them beat in both with a starting outfield of Hamilton, Trout, and Bourjos.
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That's possible. Probably depends on which JUpton you get - 2011 or 2012. Both are going to be great and improving still.
 
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That's possible. Probably depends on which JUpton you get - 2011 or 2012. Both are going to be great and improving still.
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It's a great outfield and should definately help with the team defense for the pitching staff. I'll wait to see what people think of the prospects Atlanta gave up before judging the deal but it's cool that the two brothers will be playing together.
 
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Love the trade for the Braves, hate it for the DBacks. I don't really understand what they're doing this off season.
 
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I don't understand at all why the D'Backs were so intenet on trading Upton... It will be interesting to see if some of Justin's work ethic rubs off on his older brother with them playing next to each other, will certainly be an interesting dynamic... Guarantee they get in at least one fight with each other!
 
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CY88CE11 said:
That's possible. Probably depends on which JUpton you get - 2011 or 2012. Both are going to be great and improving still.
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B.J. is the bigger question mark offensively. He might hit 25 HRs, but if he puts up another .298 OBP that's not exactly going to help the team much. Even if Justin doesn't hit 30+ HRs again, you at least know you're going to get a .350+ OBP out of him and he's only 25.
 
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Clark said:
It's a great outfield and should definately help with the team defense for the pitching staff. I'll wait to see what people think of the prospects Atlanta gave up before judging the deal but it's cool that the two brothers will be playing together.
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Well, they didn't give up Teheran or Gilmartin, who they view as their top two pitching prospects. Ahmed is going to be good, but not as good as Simmons, so he'd never start in ATL. Drury is solid, but a project at 3B. Spruill struggled at AA a bit last year, and he's 23, so he has to make a jump soon. Overall, adding Prado saved them some good prospects.
 
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Keith Law gets stuck on talent and talent alone. Addition by subtraction here. Justin Upton is a mental midget that brought guys around him down.

All I know is somebody is going to get Michael Bourn CHEAP.
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Ha! You could not be any more wrong about Upton... Nobody wants Bourn because nobody wants to lose their draft pick, thats why trade pieces are more valuable than ever and the D'Backs failed to cash in.
 
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thatguy said:
Keith Law gets stuck on talent and talent alone. Addition by subtraction here. Justin Upton is a mental midget that brought guys around him down.

All I know is somebody is going to get Michael Bourn CHEAP.
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I trust his judgement on prospects.

I agree with you on Bourn. Phillies just make so much sense for him and all the other potential suitors seem to be landing other players.
 
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Keith Law crushed Arizona for this deal. Says they sold Upton for 50 cents on the dollar. Sounds like the Braves got a steal.

Breaking down the Justin Upton trade from Diamondbacks to the Braves -- MLB - ESPN
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I don't get that. I'm not convinced that Upton is that much better than Prado if at all. Prado has been the best hitter on the Braves over the past 3 years and his defensive versatility allowed them to put in the best guy on the bench when someone needed a day off.

Plus the Diamondbacks get some promising pitchers and a good looking shortstop. How was it a steal for the Braves?
 
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BBHMagic said:
I don't get that. I'm not convinced that Upton is that much better than Prado if at all. Prado has been the best hitter on the Braves over the past 3 years and his defensive versatility allowed them to put in the best guy on the bench when someone needed a day off.

Plus the Diamondbacks get some promising pitchers and a good looking shortstop. How was it a steal for the Braves?
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They didn't have to give up Simmons, Teheran, or Gilmartin and got back 3 guaranteed years of two Uptons alongside Heyward. And with Prado's contract up after this year, it was likely that he'd command about $10 million in free agency. The Braves didn't want to put that up for him, so they got some return on him while they could. I agree he's been the best singles hitter on the team, and he's a plate warrior, but this is a great move for the Braves.
 
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I don't get that. I'm not convinced that Upton is that much better than Prado if at all. Prado has been the best hitter on the Braves over the past 3 years and his defensive versatility allowed them to put in the best guy on the bench when someone needed a day off.

Plus the Diamondbacks get some promising pitchers and a good looking shortstop. How was it a steal for the Braves?
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Player A last 3 years:

2010: .307/.350/.459 15 HR, 5 SB, 4.3WAR
2011: .260/.302/.385 13 HR 4 SB, 1.6 WAR
2012: .301/.359/.438 10HR 17SB, 5.9 WAR

Player B last 3 years:

2010: .273/.356/.442 17 HR, 18 SB, 3.0 WAR
2011: .289/.369/.529 31 HR, 21 SB, 6.4 WAR
2012: .280/.355/.430 17 HR, 18 SB, 2.5 WAR

Player A will turn 30 this year and had 1 year remaining on his contract. Player B will turn 26 this year and had 3 years remaining on his contract.
 
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