Big 12 / SEC Championship Game

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It's wierd because I doubt there will be very many years when the two conference champions end up playing against each other in this bowl. The odds are that for any given year at least one of the two champions, and most likely both of them, will be among the top four top ranked teams who will complete in the championship playoffs.
 

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It's wierd because I doubt there will be very many years when the two conference champions end up playing against each other in this bowl. The odds are that for any given year at least one of the two champions, and most likely both of them, will be among the top four top ranked teams who will complete in the championship playoffs.

Exactly. Nothing really to get excited about.
 

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I suppose if the two champs did meet it would be considered a down year...
 

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In the event that the champion is in the playoffs, wouldn't the runner-up be included similar to the rose bowl?
 

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Exactly. Nothing really to get excited about.

What? This is something to get very excited about. This isn't about the game itself but the relationship that the SEC and Big XII have made. There are clearly 4 top tier conferences now and the Big XII is one of them.
 

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In the event that the champion is in the playoffs, wouldn't the runner-up be included similar to the rose bowl?

It appears so. My question is how does this affect the Big 12's at-large bowl bids. Scenario: Conf. champ is included in playoff so runner-up goes to Big 12 / SEC bowl game. Does that mean the other eligible teams move up in the "order" for the remaining bowls?
 

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Is there still going to be BCS bowls with a move to a playoff or will we go back to the pre BCS days?
 

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Bargaining chip with the Big 10 and Pac 12 in the current BSC negotiations!

I am sure it is no conincedence that they say it is going to be played in prime time on New Year's Day.

Smart move, and will mean more money to the Big 12.
 

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I would be shocked if this game isn't at JerryWorld, considering his ties to both conferences, the fact that he hasn't had a BCS bowl yet, and that the state of Texas is the only Big 12/SEC overlap (for now... FL and SC soon to join that list :yes:)
 
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Anyone know any easy way to see how many bowls current Big 12 and SEC teams have played. Seems like it should be a lot. Big games that decided national championships?

It's kind of a tradition that seems like it should have been locked in the day the Big 12 was formed with Big Eight Orange Bowl history and SWC geographic proximity.
 

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And we all know the kick was good...another game in the life of a Clone fan.

Karma came around for us on that one against OK State.

Now we just need the following to check off the karma revenge list :)
1. A razor close game tying TD where we dive in the air for the pylon
2. A double foul to advance us to a Final Four
3. Score a 3 pointer during a dead ball or halftime.

Obviously they become much less likely as you go from 1 to 3.
 

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Anyone know any easy way to see how many bowls current Big 12 and SEC teams have played.

As in Big 12 vs. SEC? Including all affiliated teams from 1996-present:

1998 Orange - Nebraska 42, Tennessee 17
1998 Independence - Ole Miss 35, Texas Tech 18
1999 Cotton - Texas 38, Mississippi State 11
1999 Independence - Ole Miss 27, Oklahoma 25
2000 Cotton - Arkansas 27, Texas 6
2000 Fiesta - Nebraska 31, Tennessee 21
2000 Independence - Mississippi State 43, Texas A&M 41 (ot)
2001 Cotton - Kansas State 35, Tennessee 21
2001 Independence - Alabama 14, Iowa State 13
2002 Cotton - Oklahoma 10, Arkansas 3
2002 Independence - Ole Miss 27, Nebraska 23
2003 Cotton - Texas 35, LSU 20
2003 Independence - Arkansas 27, Missouri 14
2004 Cotton - Ole Miss 31, Oklahoma State 28
2004 Sugar - LSU 21, Oklahoma 14
2005 Cotton - Tennessee 38, Texas A&M 7
2005 Independence - Missouri 38, South Carolina 31
2006 Cotton - Alabama 13, Texas Tech 10
2006 Independence - Oklahoma State 34, Alabama 31
2007 Cotton - Auburn 17, Nebraska 14
2007 Independence - Alabama 30, Colorado 24
2008 Cotton - Missouri 38, Arkansas 7
2009 Cotton - Ole Miss 47, Texas Tech 34
2009 BCS National Championship - Florida 24, Oklahoma 14
2009 Independence - Georgia 44, Texas A&M 20
2010 Cotton - Ole Miss 21, Oklahoma State 7
2010 BCS National Championship - Alabama 37, Texas 21
2011 Cotton - LSU 41, Texas A&M 24
2012 Cotton - Arkansas 29, Kansas State 16

29 total meetings. SEC leads, 20-9, including a 7-game win streak.
 
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How will this affect other bowl games/pecking order?

1st time will not be til after 2014 season. So you can assume the B12 #1 goes to the playoffs. The rest of the bowls depend on what B12 membership looks like. If you go 14+ teams with Eastern powerhouses, it's possible you could see something like

#2 New Bowl game (Sugar Bowl?)
#3 Cotton Bowl
#4 Fiesta Bowl
#5 Orange Bowl
#6 Alamo Bowl
#7 Holiday Bowl
#8 Insight Bowl
#9 Houston Bowl
#10 Pinstripe Bowl