Loved seeing their old nemesis, Arkansas take them to the woodshed.
Getting a good start to the SEC, huh.
Big 12 Expansion (new thread)
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Getting a good start to the SEC, huh.
Started thinking about what a Big 12-SEC non-conference scheduling alignment would look like. I think something like this (formal or not) is likely if we don't get added to the Alliance.
Games to play most years:
*Texas Tech vs Texas
*Oklahoma State vs Oklahoma
*Houston or TCU or Baylor vs Texas A&M
*Kansas vs Missouri
*Cincinnati vs Kentucky - could become a new rivalry
*UCF vs Florida - see above
West Virginia vs Kentucky could also become a bordering-state rivalry.
Would be fun for Iowa State to rotate through a bunch of teams, maybe playing for the Telephone Trophy once every four or five years.
If ESPN paired teams for TV and team quality, we'd have gotten Alabama or Georgia this year...
Games to play most years:
*Texas Tech vs Texas
*Oklahoma State vs Oklahoma
*Houston or TCU or Baylor vs Texas A&M
*Kansas vs Missouri
*Cincinnati vs Kentucky - could become a new rivalry
*UCF vs Florida - see above
West Virginia vs Kentucky could also become a bordering-state rivalry.
Would be fun for Iowa State to rotate through a bunch of teams, maybe playing for the Telephone Trophy once every four or five years.
If ESPN paired teams for TV and team quality, we'd have gotten Alabama or Georgia this year...
Amazing that the Big 12 is even in the conversation again. Before last Friday they weren't.
Did I miss some news, or is your imagination running away with you?
Schools with options will be leaving, I don’t think there can be any question about that.
i don’t know what’s available to Kansas, but we will see what happens.
It will be interesting to see if the SEC adheres to the 'only 8' conference game schedule. With the addition of OuT, and maybe more to follow, who knows. It has been advantage for them up to this point, record-wise, and for an extra home game.
Will espn have sway in that? I don't know. I'd think the SEC would like to keep it 8 games.
Big Ten copied them a little this year with some of these early season games.
The way human rankings work it makes sense to put a few cupcakes late and a few big conference games early.
They had a decade where the B12 made nearly as much as SEC and Big Ten and they did very little to invest in football compared to almost the entire rest of the Big 12.
I think Ga. Tech is in question. Maybe it helps, maybe it doesn't. I don't like Ga. Tech as a 20th spot, 24th is a little better. I'm just saying it may be an addition that fails. I absolutely feel the SEC blocks the B1G from FSU, but I am less sure about Ga. Tech. If a miracle happened and the B1G could get FSU, Ga. Tech makes sense as a bridge.
I am absolutely on board for the Houston addition for the B12. IMO it wasn't addition number 4 it was more like 1 or 2.
Houston to the B12 is completely different than Ga. Tech to the B1G. There is so much synergy IMO for adding UH with the existing Texahoma schools, that it helps ratings in those 4 games where UH is involved. Granted, they were big opponents like OU but UH has had 5M 2x in the past 4-5 yrs. UH won't get those kind of numbers against B12 but it will be solid, they will also be a non-conference team other Power leagues schedule which will give good inventory for the league.
I will go one step farther, even though Houston is now an SEC market first planting a hometown B12 school will help B12 coverage in Houston as a solid #2 and make sure the B12 is not forgotten and to a lesser extent probably around the state. I think this will help the other Texahoma games ratings even when UH is not involved.
UH needs a good coach and to be relevant but I thought they were a no brainer from the beginning. I even thought the B12 with UT & OU could have afforded to add UH and one other school to go to 12 for some of those same reasons. But I think both UT & OU were reluctant to elevate UH.
It'd maybe nice to go to an 8 conference game schedule, but don't think that is realistic. The 'better' conference games will be important for our league TV revenue-wise I'd think.
We will stay at 9 games.
Yep, if they can get the extra cash (from conference membership with football) and keep doing as little as possible, they can put it to other uses.
It is undeniable Boise passed a lot of programs in the last 20 years.
Do you think the current Big 12, would be vetting them if they stayed the same as in 2001?
No. That is huge growth. Growth that does not happen if making more, but going 4-8.
Understand now?
Actually KU has invested quite a bit in football. The normal fans like HFCS haven't actually seen any of KU's facilities and judge KU on the stadium alone. They have a brand new football only indoor facility. Plus built all new training, weight room & lockers about a decade ago which they have upgraded a couple of times since then. Also have a really nice football dorm. The stadium is the absolute worst and so most fans judge KU by that. If there isn't a stadium remodel announcement sometime this fall I would be very surprised. That thing is trash.
But their investment in former coaches is well above the conference average.
Whole heartedly agree with the bolded. It takes a lot to pay for three head coaches at once.
Synergy, or suffocating by breathing the same limited air?
Houston was added because it was considered to be adding an SEC city in which the current Big 12 member didn't have a hold on. With all the ACC alumni in ATL, but still an SEC city, GT would be similar to the BIG
Houston's standing in Houston, even with the other three, isn't terribly different than GT in ATL, but GT and the BIG have the linear model to extract revenue. BIG difference.
I'm hearing big donors putting and AD has a $210-MM FB facility / stadium improvement - all "supposedly" in hopes of getting a BIG / ACC invite. Who knows
If the Big 12 has just a few defections and KU cannot stick anywhere else, wouldn’t shock me to see them go the UConn route of Big East basketball and independent football. Something like Pac-12 wants TCU, Houston, OSU, ISU, and B1G and ACC both say no way to KU.
