Doesn't Illinois have to go because it's the Rose Bowl? Or can the Rose Bowl pick being OSU is in the title game?
BCS Title Game: Likely OSU vs LSU
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Doesn't Illinois have to go because it's the Rose Bowl? Or can the Rose Bowl pick being OSU is in the title game?
I believe they have first right to a Big Ten team if one does not go to the Championship game.
It's a tough call. I might lean toward LSU since they won a tougher conference and beat VT head to head this year, but what amazes me is that VT isn't even in the conversation. On ESPN they're discussing who's no. 2?, and they mentioned since Kansas and Georgia didn't win their conference, it was between OU, USC, and LSU. So I totally agree with you that VT isn't getting the respect they deserve.
At this point I'd say that the "National Champion" that comes from the BCS title game is no more legitimate than under the old system of conference tie-ins.
The BCS works in the sense that people pay attention to it, but are people really any more energized then they were 15 years ago? I'd argue no, and that at some point the absurdity of putting a team like OSU in the championship game year after year will wear on people and it will come back to bite the BCS in the butt in the form of apathy or split championships.
There are teams out there (Georgia, USC, OU) that no one would want to play right now, and conveniently OSU (who would lose to all of them) gets a pass because they play in a weak conference with a hopefully crumbling reputation.
The BCS works in the sense that people pay attention to it, but are people really any more energized then they were 15 years ago? I'd argue no, and that at some point the absurdity of putting a team like OSU in the championship game year after year will wear on people and it will come back to bite the BCS in the butt in the form of apathy or split championships.
There are teams out there (Georgia, USC, OU) that no one would want to play right now, and conveniently OSU (who would lose to all of them) gets a pass because they play in a weak conference with a hopefully crumbling reputation.
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The problem is we're trying to add logic to a system that has no logic when there are a lot of teams that can lay claim to a shot at the title.
The regular season doesn't matter any more now than it would if there were a playoff. I mean, supposedly Ohio State blew their chance 3 weeks ago and LSU blew theirs last week and now they're both in it. All that matters is convincing the voters that you are either the best or most deserving of a shot on this last weekend. The conventional wisdom all year has been that LSU is the best team so the voters are putting them above everybody else because you can't really find a team that has a clear cut case.
The regular season doesn't matter any more now than it would if there were a playoff. I mean, supposedly Ohio State blew their chance 3 weeks ago and LSU blew theirs last week and now they're both in it. All that matters is convincing the voters that you are either the best or most deserving of a shot on this last weekend. The conventional wisdom all year has been that LSU is the best team so the voters are putting them above everybody else because you can't really find a team that has a clear cut case.
I've never been a believer that Hawaii deserves a shot at the national title but they are going to choose a two loss team ahead of a team with 0 losses...
If both OSU and LSU can back into the national title, why can't Hawaii?
If both OSU and LSU can back into the national title, why can't Hawaii?
This is why they need a playoff system. If it is LSU vs. Ohio State, I hope LSU wins, just to implode this damn BCS crap.
I agree with the comment about Hawaii. I hate it when a team gets shafted when they go unbeaten in the regular season. I realize they aren't getting the votes because of there "strength of schedule". Hawaii has tried to get better teams to come play them but they won't, they turn the offer down. Who remebers Boise St. when they shocked the world by beating Oklahoma. Who thought that was gonna happen. I think the same about Hawaii. They have one of the most potent offenses with Brennan and all his recievers. I hate it when teams get blown off because they don't play anyone. Any team can get beat on any given Saturday!!
The reason LSU jumped Va Tech is simple...LSU beat Va Tech by over 40 points. I was there and, frankly, it wasn't even as close as the score indicated. Had Va Tech lost a close one to LSU they would probably have finished ahead of the Tigers in the final BCS but you just cannot ignore the beat down that LSU put on the Hokies.
Actually, LSU should have never been below them after beating them 48-7 and then only losing two games...both in triple OT. This really shows what a farse the polls really are.
You can knock the conference records of LSU's two losses (UK and Arkansas) but the fact is that UK finished 7-5 and Arkansas finished 8-4. Additionally, LSU lost both games in triple OT.
Excellent Post!
I'm curious as to why more people don't think OU got "jobbed"? I think they have a far more compelling argument than Va Tech for why they should be one of the top 2 in my opinion.
LSU should slap Ohio St around in the Championship game but, unfortunately, they have a bad habit of playing to the level of their competition this year. Plus, I think Tressel is a superior game day coach to Miles. Having said that, I would just love to see a huge blowout with LSU winning by about 50 because the Big 10 is so pathetic this year...as the above post clearly shows!
Out of about any of the teams at the top, OU's losses were one of the worst (CU and Texas Tech). And, they damn near lost to us.
USC lost to Stanford which was damn bad as well and I don't hear too many crying for them. WVU, well, not many crying for them with losses to Pitt and USF.
VT lost to LSU and BC, but defeated BC in the more important game.
I'm not happy OSU is in the title game, but they did lose to a good team (a team that does not belong in the BCS though, IMO).
Not good losses for OU but both were close and on the road and they did beat Missouri twice...manhandling them (as the #1 team in the country) this past Saturday.
Mizzou really got screwed. Illinois is the one team that really does not belong in a BCS game but the Rose Bowl has to get it's traditional "Big 10 Pac 10" contest.
Yup, Mizzou got completely hosed. I really think a USC vs Mizzou game could have been very exciting.
I won't be shocked to see Illinois beat USC. I do think they are better than their record indicates - they never should have lost to Iowa.
But, they did and based on their resume, they have no business getting an at-large bid.
I won't be shocked to see Illinois beat USC. I do think they are better than their record indicates - they never should have lost to Iowa.
But, they did and based on their resume, they have no business getting an at-large bid.
Someone tell me how this happens...
BCS Standings
Week 11:
Kansas #3 10-0 (win the week before)
Ohio State #7 10-1 (loss the week before)
Week 12:
Kansas #2 11-0 (win)
Ohio State #5 11-1 (win)
Week 13:
Kansas #5 (loss)
Ohio State #3 (idle)
Week 14:
Kansas #8 (idle)
Ohio State #1 (idle)
Kansas loses spots while being idle. But Ohio State gains spots while being idle?
BCS Standings
Week 11:
Kansas #3 10-0 (win the week before)
Ohio State #7 10-1 (loss the week before)
Week 12:
Kansas #2 11-0 (win)
Ohio State #5 11-1 (win)
Week 13:
Kansas #5 (loss)
Ohio State #3 (idle)
Week 14:
Kansas #8 (idle)
Ohio State #1 (idle)
Kansas loses spots while being idle. But Ohio State gains spots while being idle?
Gotta love that, eh?
I think it had something to do with the team KU lost to getting beat pretty badly Saturday. I think had Mizzou played OU very close - either KU or Illinois would be left out of the BCS.
I think it had something to do with the team KU lost to getting beat pretty badly Saturday. I think had Mizzou played OU very close - either KU or Illinois would be left out of the BCS.
And Missouri is getting absolutely hosed. The #6 team in the BCS not making a BCS game but #7, #8, #9, #10, and #13 do.
LSU can lose not once, but TWICE as the #1 team and they still make the championship game. But Missouri loses ONCE as the #1 team and they don't make a BCS game. Just terrible.
LSU can lose not once, but TWICE as the #1 team and they still make the championship game. But Missouri loses ONCE as the #1 team and they don't make a BCS game. Just terrible.
