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Statefan10

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I have no idea what will happen. But I guess I just don't think it is an Iowa State decision. The NCAA is going to decide for everyone. As it should.
Oh for sure. That's why the Story County Health Board's opinion doesn't hold much weight in the decision making process for Jamie. Jamie will follow the guidelines that the NCAA permits.
 

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For those of us that love college sports it will never look the same if football isn’t played in 2020-21.
I kind of wonder what it would look like. Because I graduated from a D3 school (go Wooster). The facilities aren’t nearly as nice, but we have more sports than Iowa state (21 vs. 16), I can listen to every game online in Wisconsin, and I can watch a lot of them on my computer (the quality isn’t very good, but I can see what’s happening). So I have to feel like even in the worst case scenario, college sports will survive
 

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One thing to keep in mind is ritual and habit.

Attendance at religious services has dropped dramatically and will not be coming back to the level it was before. Ever. The downward trend on religion will be accelerated by Covid lockdowns.

It will be same with sports. People are going to start to realize it isn't that important and sports will diminish as well. That is probably good for society. All the effort and expense can be channeled into more useful things. Consider all the hours you have spent on CF, and what could you have done with those? Built a deck? Fed the homeless? Took your kid fishing?

No football this year probably means a lot less colleges and universities will have it next year or beyond. Do you think there are a dozen P5 schools that might shut down football? Bet you can name about that many suspects. What about G5?
 

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I agree. But then again I really just care about Iowa State. Posters seem to believe that you can skip the 2020-21 calendar and things will recover. That’s not the case. Non-revenue sports will be gone and I would suspect that 55-70 schools would face the very real prospect of dropping football and/or basketball.
For those of us that love college sports it will never look the same if football isn’t played in 2020-21.

I don't like that either. But we can't bend reality. I have NO DOUBT that if at all possible JP will have a plan to play football this year. I have no doubt that his plan will be as safe as possible.

But I just think the decision isn't going to end up being up to JP. The NCAA is going to have to have a uniform decision for everyone.
 

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I got an email yesterday saying that the HS that I work at will be doing both in school and on line learning for the upcoming school year. The students will be in attendence M,T,TH, F and will doing online on Wed. All assignments given online will be required this time. The lunch periods will be staggered for kids 5-12, allowing them to space out more, and a couple of groups will be eating in one of the gyms.
This seems odd but maybe there's a reason I'm not seeing. How does going online one day a week help?
The way I've heard it, 1/2 the students attend in person Monday and Tuesday. Nobody attends Wednesday to clean. The other half attend in person on Thursday and Friday.
 

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One thing to keep in mind is ritual and habit.

Attendance at religious services has dropped dramatically and will not be coming back to the level it was before. Ever. The downward trend on religion will be accelerated by Covid lockdowns.

It will be same with sports. People are going to start to realize it isn't that important and sports will diminish as well. That is probably good for society. All the effort and expense can be channeled into more useful things. Consider all the hours you have spent on CF, and what could you have done with those? Built a deck? Fed the homeless? Took your kid fishing?

No football this year probably means a lot less colleges and universities will have it next year or beyond. Do you think there are a dozen P5 schools that might shut down football? Bet you can name about that many suspects. What about G5?
Personally, I think it'll be the opposite unless these major sports are gone for a few years. With the potential timelines of the NHL, NBA, and now MLB, you're looking at every single major sport getting brought back at the same time. The coverage by the media and the excitement by their fans will be as big as it's ever been because of all of this.
 

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I don't like that either. But we can't bend reality. I have NO DOUBT that if at all possible JP will have a plan to play football this year. I have no doubt that his plan will be as safe as possible.

But I just think the decision isn't going to end up being up to JP. The NCAA is going to have to have a uniform decision for everyone.

The NCAA doesn't usually get too involved in football though, in football a lot more power resides in the conferences. They'll decide whether to have their games or not. I think ultimately they will have them but fans won't be there at most places. That is a lot lower risk for community spread and saves the TV money
 
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If college sports aren't able to happen at all this year then the ISU AD isn't going to be facing anything that every single other AD will be facing and something will be figured out that doesn't involve totally killing college sports forever even though some schools will surely have worse long term effects than others.

Look at it this way, golf and cross country both should be able to happen. Maybe we all just become die hard cross country fans this fall.
 

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If college sports aren't able to happen at all this year then the ISU AD isn't going to be facing anything that every single other AD will be facing and something will be figured out that doesn't involve totally killing college sports forever even though some schools will surely have worse long term effects than others.

Look at it this way, golf and cross country both should be able to happen. Maybe we all just become die hard cross country fans this fall.
Conspiracy theory alert - THIS is JP's ultimate goal...
 

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The NCAA doesn't usually get too involved in football though, in football a lot more power resides in the conferences. They'll decide whether to have their games or not. I think ultimately they will have them but fans won't be there at most places. That is a lot lower risk for community spread and saves the TV money
Personally, I just want football. That's not saying I don't care about people either. If we CAN'T play football because of the virus. So be it. There is literally nothing that I can do about it. I've made it this long without my favorite sports and there's no doubt I can wait longer. I just hope not having the season doesn't kill programs.

If we get a football season (which we likely will), that'd be awesome. Have to wear masks in the stadium at 30-50% capacity? Absolutely, don't care. Can't have fans? I'll watch it on TV.
 

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If college sports aren't able to happen at all this year then the ISU AD isn't going to be facing anything that every single other AD will be facing and something will be figured out that doesn't involve totally killing college sports forever even though some schools will surely have worse long term effects than others.

Look at it this way, golf and cross country both should be able to happen. Maybe we all just become die hard cross country fans this fall.
FINALLY a dominant program
 

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I kind of wonder what it would look like. Because I graduated from a D3 school (go Wooster). The facilities aren’t nearly as nice, but we have more sports than Iowa state (21 vs. 16), I can listen to every game online in Wisconsin, and I can watch a lot of them on my computer (the quality isn’t very good, but I can see what’s happening). So I have to feel like even in the worst case scenario, college sports will survive

This is an interesting point, but getting the D1 budgets cranked down to a point that they work like a D3 budget would be a painful grind and be nearly impossible.
 

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The NCAA isn't going to make a blanket decision. Every state is on a different playing field. Do you really think schools would be jumping to travel to Florida/Florida State/Miami/Arizona/Arizona State right now?
 

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I agree. But then again I really just care about Iowa State. Posters seem to believe that you can skip the 2020-21 calendar and things will recover. That’s not the case. Non-revenue sports will be gone and I would suspect that 55-70 schools would face the very real prospect of dropping football and/or basketball.
For those of us that love college sports it will never look the same if football isn’t played in 2020-21.

So I’m to believe that a red state entity didn’t even save up for 4 months of a rainy day fund?
 
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The NCAA isn't going to make a blanket decision. Every state is on a different playing field. Do you really think schools would be jumping to travel to Florida/Florida State/Miami/Arizona/Arizona State right now?
I highly doubt the players are going to be allowed to congregate in those communities. Hotel, game, bus / plane. I understand the logic behind what you said, I just don't know if there would be an added risk to the players, rather the risk would fall more with the fans attending (if there are any).
 

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If there is no football this year, there is a good chance that only 3-4 sports survive within the athletic department. If there is no basketball as well this year, then I’m not sure we will be able to afford either of our head coaches in Football and Basketball.
I'm not sure ISU has any extra sports to cut and still qualify to be D1 or stay in the Big12.
 

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I'm not sure ISU has any extra sports to cut and still qualify to be D1 or stay in the Big12.

I'm sure if everyone has to cancel football and Iowa State has to cancel every sport, there will be exceptions made to stay in conferences.

I realize we have less money than a lot of schools, but no one is going to be in a good shape if the season is cancelled.
 

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Just step back and think for a minute what we are actually discussing here.

Human lives vs. playing a game.

And there quite a few on the side of playing a game over saving human lives. Let that sink in for a minute as to where our society is at right now folks.
 

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Just step back and think for a minute what we are actually discussing here.

Human lives vs. playing a game.

And there quite a few on the side of playing a game over saving human lives. Let that sink in for a minute as to where our society is at right now folks.
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