Another potential OC hire- Nick Quartaro
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Of course he doesnt own it. He is only the OC. Come on!!
Excuses. No accountability. Thats the way of the world.
All of this. Even completely disregarding the poor QB play, the play calling was absolutely atrocious at times this season, and the Iowa game was the sterling example of how bad it was. The OC's job is to put the offense in a position to be successful, whether the players execute the plays being called is another story. But when you have a defense that is solid up the middle against the run and weak in the secondary against the pass, there is absolutely no excuse for running two zone read plays that go off-tackle to start the game against that defense. No excuse for it other than complete ineptitude.
To a certain extent, I can take it if our offense sucks because they aren't executing play calls that are correct for the situations they are in, but that isn't the overarching reason they weren't successful this year.
How do you know that ISU went toe to toe with UT because of Mess and not in spite of him? Honestly, I'm not a Mess apologist. I have every bit the doubt that most do. What frustrates me is the argument of play calling. I mean, this guy has coached football for decades, lived and breathed it. Made it to the highest level by showing something to CPR that he put his trust in him...but all of the sudden he can't make simple play calls or adjustments? Its just crazy to think some average guy has more knowledge than a guy that does it for a living.
Bottom line is that most people would rather take it out on a coach instead of admitting their team doesn't have as much talent (ready to play talent at least) as they thought. People don't like the excuse of injury, even when they should. Does Sam or Steele or Grant really look like great QB's to anybody? Look at all these stud freshman QB's around the country...great QB coaches right? Please..those guys are making their coaches look good. Either you have it to be a high D1 QB or not. You might be able to improve a little from year to year but I've not seen a QB in an ISU uniform worthy of high D1 sense Seneca.
Disappointing would be a understatement for me! Was not impressed by him when he was here before.
Side note, at that time he had a pretty hot daughter.
You dont think injuries and having a different starting 5 for 8 straight games had anything to do with that?
Coach K is a helluva lot more qualified OC than Mess.
An 'intangibles' thing to consider...we already have half a fan base that can't spell Rhoads, we don't need those same people being able to neither spell, nor pronounce Quartaro.
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Didn't Kansas has some pretty crappy offenses from 2002-2006? That team was more defensive laden than anything those years if I recall correctly.
If Coach K is moved to OC, then probably Bleil moves back to OL coach and Mess moves to TEs.
So who coaches QB's in this scenario? I ask because you are only allowed to have so many assistant coaches so the OC also has to coach a position. And before you say coach K can coach QBs and be OC, well he has NEVER coached QBs, but he has been an OC.
Coach K, didn't he coach Kaepernick at Nevada? Coach K's bio indicates so.
I'd be OK with Sturdy as well. He was OC and QB coach at Wash. St. and was very successful there against Pac12 competition.
I'd be OK with Sturdy as well. He was OC and QB coach at Wash. St. and was very successful there against Pac12 competition.
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It's possible. I just saw Big 12 OC experience and a guy who would be relatively easy to hire and thought it was a possibility. If he was poor at Kansas than he clearly shouldn't be hired, at least not as OC.
He coached O-line and Kaepernick was the QB. So he "coached" him, depending on the definition of coaching.
If Coach K is OC then Mess would either have to stay as QB coach, or perhaps Sturdy or an outside hire would take it. I personally think naming Klenakis OC would be a big mistake, unless if he is willing to run an offense not based near as much around the zone read as what he ran at Nevada.
I have a question about Mangino as a potential hire as OC. Does anyone here really think CPR and Mangino actually have any kind of relationship with each other. I mean, how well does CPR know Mangino personally?
Still think someone at Indiana should be looked at. They've had prolific offenses last few years. Top third of the Big 10. Just haven't had a defense to stop a nose bleed.
If there staff gets let go head coach Kevin Wilson should be Rhoads's first call, IMO. He was OC at Northwestern from 1999-2001 and then at Oklahoma from 2002-2010. I also think Indiana OC Seth Littrell could be an interesting hire.
