All Iowa Football Team---Post Bowl Edition

[SouthernCy]

You think you made some great points here? JFC man you can't take the last 10 years as 10 years ago the makeup was much different. Lets start in 2012 when TCU/WVU joined the Big12.

Championship level teams
Big10 - Ohio St.
Big12 OU

Obviously these two teams dominate the Big10 and Big12, but the tier behind them is way better in the Big10.

AP Top 10 finishes:

Big10: OSU (7), Wisconsin (2), MSU (3), Iowa, Penn St. (3), Michigan, Minnesota
Big12: OU (6), Baylor, TCU (3), Texas

So the Big10 has had 7 different teams finish in the AP top 10 and has a total of 18 top 10 finishes. The Big12 has had 4 teams finish in the top 10, with 11 total top 10 finishes.

If you look at just the last 5 years the gap between the conference has become even more pronounced. The Big12 has slipped alot over the last 5 years:

Top 10 finished by teams not named OSU or OU since 2015:

Big10: Iowa ('15), MSU ('15), Penn St. ('16, '17, '19), Wisconsin ('16, '17), Michigan (16'), Minnesota ('19)
Big12: TCU ('15 & '17), Texas ('18)

Obviously the top tier just behind OU and OSU is way better in the Big10. The gap has widened since '15 for sure. The Big10 has 9 top 10 finishes while the Big12 has 3. LOL, that is really bad. Yet you think the top of the Big12 is close to the top of the Big10, LOLOLOL.

Showing the big10 has had 7 different top 10 teams literally means nothing. It doesn't prove the league isn't OSU and everyone else. The fact you tout Minnesota and Michigan with a single top 10 finish even drives the point home how mediocre Michigan has been and how big of a fluke Minnesota was. The only laughable thing out of your entire post was that you thought it proved something and showed the big10 isn't just OSU and everyone else is irrelevant just as it's OU and everyone else

 

[SouthernCy]

Don't worry, I totally destroyed him. When you look at it, the Big10 has become a much better conference since 2015 than the Big12, I mean there is no debate here. The overall wins since 2015:

OSU 61
OU 58
Wisconsin 52
Penn St. 49
Michigan 47
Iowa 47
Oklahoma St. 45
TCU 40
Northwestern 39
MSU 39
WVU 38
Minnesota 38

Obviously the tier just below OU and OSU is dominated by Big10 teams. I mean the only team even in Iowa, Michigan, Penn St, or Wisconsin's class is OSU, and OSU is clearly behind those teams.

You didn't destroy anything dude. The fact you are trying to use overall wins when the Big 10 has added cupcake teams to fluff up wins is comical let alone look at how teams like iowa have skated by on the softest division in college football in addition to playing some of the weakest conference schedules known to man. But yea, you destroyed me

 

[Lemmiwinks]

I literally just looked up one team and found you to be incorrect. Michigan the last 10 years: 85 wins. Baylor: 83. And that is with a 1-11 record. So yea, you would be wrong

What is he wrong about in that post again?

Wins:
Wisconsin 102 > Penn St. 87 > Michigan 85 > Baylor 83

 

[SouthernCy]

I guess I'd agree on them both being mediocre as far as where the programs should be with their prestige and talent level. I've heard from members here that Texas has been "good" so I wanted to clarify. As far as Michigan not having a chance to win the B10, they were 4 points away in a double OT game in 2016 and it came down to the last OSU game in 2018 as well. Not really what I would consider having "no chance". Texas has finishes of T-5th, T-6th, T-4th, 2nd, T-3rd going back to 2015. So basically in contention 2018.

So 4 years ago was there last real chance? I understand you bringing up 2018 and that it was between them and OSU, but saying they ever had a chance I think would be just lying to yourself. They got hammered 62-39, That's not having a chance in my opinion.

 

[SouthernCy]

What is he wrong about in that post again?

Wins:
Wisconsin 102 > Penn St. 87> Michigan 85 > Baylor 83

"How many teams in your conference have as many wins over the last decade as Michigan does"

Is it more than Michigan? no. But its literally 2 wins away from being tied. Trying to act like michigan is WAY better than every team other than OU would be incorrect

 

[SouthernCy]

I used 5 years because he originally quoted the last 10 years and 5 years. The last 10 years make no sense as Nebraska was in the Big12 10 years ago and the current version of the Big12 didn't come about til 2012.

5 years is a pretty logical amount of years to go back when looking at recent history, I'm sure that is why he said 5 years.

I said 10 because Hawk fans like to use 10 unless they are talking about how many wins per year they average. Then they use 5. Just trying to help out you fans here who pick and choose random dates to help themselves out

 

[Lemmiwinks]

So 4 years ago was there last real chance? I understand you bringing up 2018 and that it was between them and OSU, but saying they ever had a chance I think would be just lying to yourself. They got hammered 62-39, That's not having a chance in my opinion.

Last real chance? Playing the final regular season game for the chance to win the conference is having a chance. I remember hearing about ISU having a chance to win the B12 that year if they beat Texas in a more complicated scenario than the Michigan/tOSU one.

 

[TRYHARDER]

I literally just looked up one team and found you to be incorrect. Michigan the last 10 years: 85 wins. Baylor: 83. And that is with a 1-11 record. So yea, you would be wrong

what the **** are you talking about? Did I just miss something or did you prove my point? Michigan 85 and Baylor 83 right? Then tell me I was wrong. Wow.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

"How many teams in your conference have as many wins over the last decade as Michigan does"

I literally just looked up one team and found you to be incorrect. Michigan the last 10 years: 85 wins. Baylor: 83. And that is with a 1-11 record. So yea, you would be wrong

Followed by:

Is it more than Michigan? no. But its literally 2 wins away from being tied. Trying to act like michigan is WAY better than every team other than OU would be incorrect

You're better than this one.

 

[STC061693]

So 4 years ago was there last real chance? I understand you bringing up 2018 and that it was between them and OSU, but saying they ever had a chance I think would be just lying to yourself. They got hammered 62-39, That's not having a chance in my opinion.

Two years ago was Michigan’s last real chance. Same as Texas.

 

[STC061693]

Did y’all push @SouthernCy off the edge the last hour?

 

[TRYHARDER]

Did y’all push @SouthernCy off the edge the last hour?

I'm not sure what the hell happened.

 

[STCoach]

"How many teams in your conference have as many wins over the last decade as Michigan does"

Is it more than Michigan? no. But its literally 2 wins away from being tied. Trying to act like michigan is WAY better than every team other than OU would be incorrect

So not as many as Michigan, right?

 

[TRYHARDER]

So not as many as Michigan, right?

I think he must've passed out after that post.

 

[CyTwins]

Why would any NFL player ever tweet that? That's the epitome of something that should be kept in house.

Yikes Desmond

 

[JP4CY]

Yikes Desmond

There's got to be something going on. He didn't play last winter against the Vikings and he wasn't injured.

 

[STCoach]

Another weekly pick column up on CF and Williams picks another ISU win. I think sometime in the 2018 season is the last time he picked against ISU.

 

[CyTwins]

Another weekly pick column up on CF and Williams picks another ISU win. I think sometime in the 2018 season is the last time he picked against ISU.

Thanks for clicks!

 

[JP4CY]

Another weekly pick column up on CF and Williams picks another ISU win. I think sometime in the 2018 season is the last time he picked against ISU.

You've only been a member here for 7 days...

 

[STCoach]

You've only been a member here for 7 days...

Can you log out of your account and still access the articles on the front page? Because I dont have to be logged into my account to read the stories here.