All Iowa Football Team---Post Bowl Edition

[SouthernCy]

What are your thoughts on Texas the last decade?

Mediocre at best. 2018 was a nice year for them, but then filled with 8-5 seasons or less. That's god awful for a team with that much NFL talent every year. One difference between Texas and Michigan is Michigan just straight up hasn't even had a chance in hell to win the big10 given its format. Texas could at least still make the game and then come up and surprise and win it. Not sure which one of those is worse tbh

 

[SouthernCy]

You wanna talk the last 10 years? Sure K State isn’t a bottom feeder over that time, that honor goes to ISU. ISU last 10 years: ISU 5-7.

I’m talking this year, KState looks pretty horrible.

LMFAO. Just admit you're wrong dude. You bad a garbage take with a garbage comparison. You are twins level of crap takes

 

[SouthernCy]

Now do years all other years beyond last year where the west wasn't absolute trash like usual. The Big 10 is OSU and one other team. That's it Penn State, or Wisconsin. Acting like it's anything other than that is just being a troll and an idiot. Michigan has been mediocre as hell the last decade and Minnesota came from the cellar for one great year. Can they repeat? Doubtful. They had almost as soft a schedule as Iowa in 2015

Bump for @Legend Hawk cause god knows he doesn't wanna talk about this

 

[TRYHARDER]

Bump for @Legend Hawk cause god knows he doesn't wanna talk about this

I'll bite. How many teams in your conference have as many wins over the last decade as Michigan does? Without looking I'm guessing Michigan, Penn St, and Wisconsin have all been better over the last 10 years than any team in your conference not named Oklahoma.

 

[BCClone]

I'll bite. How many teams in your conference have as many wins over the last decade as Michigan does? Without looking I'm guessing Michigan, Penn St, and Wisconsin have all been better over the last 10 years than any team in your conference not named Oklahoma.

When did the big ten go to nine conference games?

 

[STC061693]

When did the big ten go to nine conference games?

2016

 

[Legend Hawk]

Bump for @Legend Hawk cause god knows he doesn't wanna talk about this

You think you made some great points here? JFC man you can't take the last 10 years as 10 years ago the makeup was much different. Lets start in 2012 when TCU/WVU joined the Big12.

Championship level teams
Big10 - Ohio St.
Big12 OU

Obviously these two teams dominate the Big10 and Big12, but the tier behind them is way better in the Big10.

AP Top 10 finishes:

Big10: OSU (7), Wisconsin (2), MSU (3), Iowa, Penn St. (3), Michigan, Minnesota
Big12: OU (6), Baylor, TCU (3), Texas

So the Big10 has had 7 different teams finish in the AP top 10 and has a total of 18 top 10 finishes. The Big12 has had 4 teams finish in the top 10, with 11 total top 10 finishes.

If you look at just the last 5 years the gap between the conference has become even more pronounced. The Big12 has slipped alot over the last 5 years:

Top 10 finished by teams not named OSU or OU since 2015:

Big10: Iowa ('15), MSU ('15), Penn St. ('16, '17, '19), Wisconsin ('16, '17), Michigan (16'), Minnesota ('19)
Big12: TCU ('15 & '17), Texas ('18)

Obviously the top tier just behind OU and OSU is way better in the Big10. The gap has widened since '15 for sure. The Big10 has 9 top 10 finishes while the Big12 has 3. LOL, that is really bad. Yet you think the top of the Big12 is close to the top of the Big10, LOLOLOL.

 

[STCoach]

You think you made some great points here? JFC man you can't take the last 10 years as 10 years ago the makeup was much different. Lets start in 2012 when TCU/WVU joined the Big12.

Championship level teams
Big10 - Ohio St.
Big12 OU

Obviously these two teams dominate the Big10 and Big12, but the tier behind them is way better in the Big10.

AP Top 10 finishes:

Big10: OSU (7), Wisconsin (2), MSU (3), Iowa, Penn St. (3), Michigan, Minnesota
Big12: OU (6), Baylor, TCU (3), Texas

So the Big10 has had 7 different teams finish in the AP top 10 and has a total of 18 top 10 finishes. The Big12 has had 4 teams finish in the top 10, with 11 total top 10 finishes.

If you look at just the last 5 years the gap between the conference has become even more pronounced. The Big12 has slipped alot over the last 5 years:

Top 10 finished by teams not named OSU or OU since 2015:

Big10: Iowa ('15), MSU ('15), Penn St. ('16, '17, '19), Wisconsin ('16, '17), Michigan (16'), Minnesota ('19)
Big12: TCU ('15 & '17), Texas ('18)

Obviously the top tier just behind OU and OSU is way better in the Big10. The gap has widened since '15 for sure. The Big10 has 9 top 10 finishes while the Big12 has 3. LOL, that is really bad. Yet you think the top of the Big12 is close to the top of the Big10, LOLOLOL.

 

[Legend Hawk]

I'll bite. How many teams in your conference have as many wins over the last decade as Michigan does? Without looking I'm guessing Michigan, Penn St, and Wisconsin have all been better over the last 10 years than any team in your conference not named Oklahoma.

Don't worry, I totally destroyed him. When you look at it, the Big10 has become a much better conference since 2015 than the Big12, I mean there is no debate here. The overall wins since 2015:

OSU 61
OU 58
Wisconsin 52
Penn St. 49
Michigan 47
Iowa 47
Oklahoma St. 45
TCU 40
Northwestern 39
MSU 39
WVU 38
Minnesota 38

Obviously the tier just below OU and OSU is dominated by Big10 teams. I mean the only team even in Iowa, Michigan, Penn St, or Wisconsin's class is OSU, and OSU is clearly behind those teams.

 

[Crookedhatkid]

Don't worry, I totally destroyed him. When you look at it, the Big10 has become a much better conference since 2015 than the Big12, I mean there is no debate here. The overall wins since 2015:

OSU 61
OU 58
Wisconsin 52
Penn St. 49
Michigan 47
Iowa 47
Oklahoma St. 45
TCU 40
Northwestern 39
MSU 39
WVU 38
Minnesota 38

Obviously the tier just below OU and OSU is dominated by Big10 teams. I mean the only team even in Iowa, Michigan, Penn St, or Wisconsin's class is OSU, and OSU is clearly behind those teams.

Keep in mind that there were 4 seasons in there where the Big 10 played and extra non-con game so that skews the numbers a little.

 

[STCoach]

Keep in mind that there were 4 seasons in there where the Big 10 played and extra non-con game so that skews the numbers a little.

His numbers date back to 2015 and the B1G started playing 9 conference games in 2016. How does that equal 4 seasons of an extra non-con game for B1G teams?

 

[Lemmiwinks]

Mediocre at best. 2018 was a nice year for them, but then filled with 8-5 seasons or less. That's god awful for a team with that much NFL talent every year. One difference between Texas and Michigan is Michigan just straight up hasn't even had a chance in hell to win the big10 given its format. Texas could at least still make the game and then come up and surprise and win it. Not sure which one of those is worse tbh

I guess I'd agree on them both being mediocre as far as where the programs should be with their prestige and talent level. I've heard from members here that Texas has been "good" so I wanted to clarify. As far as Michigan not having a chance to win the B10, they were 4 points away in a double OT game in 2016 and it came down to the last OSU game in 2018 as well. Not really what I would consider having "no chance". Texas has finishes of T-5th, T-6th, T-4th, 2nd, T-3rd going back to 2015. So basically in contention 2018.

 

[Crookedhatkid]

His numbers date back to 2015 and the B1G started playing 9 conference games in 2016. How does that equal 4 seasons of an extra non-con game for B1G teams?

My bad. I thought we were still talking 10 years. The criteria jumps around so much it is hard to keep up.

 

[STCoach]

My bad. I thought we were still talking 10 years. The criteria jumps around so much it is hard to keep up.

How hard is it to keep up when his post said "The overall wins since 2015:"?

 

[Crookedhatkid]

How hard is it to keep up when his post said "The overall wins since 2015:"?

You are right, I apologized. I should have known that every list from Iowa fans starts with “since 2015”

 

[Legend Hawk]

You are right, I apologized. I should have known that every list from Iowa fans starts with “since 2015”

I used 5 years because he originally quoted the last 10 years and 5 years. The last 10 years make no sense as Nebraska was in the Big12 10 years ago and the current version of the Big12 didn't come about til 2012.

5 years is a pretty logical amount of years to go back when looking at recent history, I'm sure that is why he said 5 years.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

Keep in mind that there were 4 seasons in there where the Big 10 played and extra non-con game so that skews the numbers a little.

4 seasons? You mean 2015. So lets compare the OOC schedule of the next closest B12 team that might move up the rankings vs the B10 teams above it.

OSU - Central Michigan, Central Arkansas, UTSA

Iowa - Illinois State, ISU, Pitt, North Texas

Michigan - Utah, Oregon State, UNLV, BYU (who was ranked)

Penn State - Temple, Buffalo, SDSU, Army

Wisconsin - Bama (lol), Miami OH, Troy Hawaii

Not sure Oklahoma State really has much of a case here. Might give PSU some dirty looks though.

 

[JP4CY]

Hey, let's add up numbers of wins since a certain year! Yeah, lets do that!


Crickets about mentioning that 3 B1G West teams last year didn't even schedule a P5 noncon

 

[Legend Hawk]

Hey, let's add up numbers of wins since a certain year! Yeah, lets do that!


Crickets about mentioning that 3 B1G West teams last year didn't even schedule a P5 noncon

I get you have to grasp at straws because the gap is so large between conferences. Plus is wasn’t me who used the 10 and 5 year time frames, I just followed his lead.

 

[SouthernCy]

I'll bite. How many teams in your conference have as many wins over the last decade as Michigan does? Without looking I'm guessing Michigan, Penn St, and Wisconsin have all been better over the last 10 years than any team in your conference not named Oklahoma.

I literally just looked up one team and found you to be incorrect. Michigan the last 10 years: 85 wins. Baylor: 83. And that is with a 1-11 record. So yea, you would be wrong