All Iowa Football Team---Post Bowl Edition

[CyTwins]

This site just yesterday was telling me some guy on twitter was owning all Hawk fans because he posted 10 years of Sagarin stats. So yeah, this place loves them some Sagarin. The funny thing is you do like to pick and choose when to love Sagarin.

He was posting SOS from completed seasons

 

[Legend Hawk]

He was posting Sagarin ratings completed seasons

I know, and every Clone fan on here was blowing their wads over it.

 

[CyTwins]

I know, and every Clone fan on here was blowing their wads over it.

Using Sagarin to look at SOS of a completed season is not comparable to using Sagarin to rank teams who haven't played yet

 

[iahawks]

Biggest game in ISU history coming up and CyTwins would rather talk about the Iowa/Purdue game. LOL

 

[CyTwins]

Biggest game in ISU history coming up and CyTwins would rather talk about the Iowa/Purdue game. LOL

Swing and a miss

 

[Statefan10]

I don’t think Purdue is all that great, they are just better according to some (not me mind you) than 70% of the Big12

And according to KenPom, Purdue was the 24th best team in the nation despite going 16-15. Analytics are fun to look at and give good indications, but they absolutely should not be used to determine whether one team would beat another. Especially when Purdue hasn't played a snap of football due to their impulsive conference.

 

[Statefan10]

Biggest game in ISU history coming up and CyTwins would rather talk about the Iowa/Purdue game. LOL

Tons of Iowa Hawkeye fan message boards yet you'd rather post on an Iowa State one. LOL

 

[Legend Hawk]

I've always used AP votes and will continue to so I'm sure you won't

Using Sagarin to look at SOS of a completed season is not comparable to using Sagarin to rank teams who haven't played yet

If you go by AP, you can't use Sagarin SOS. This is how bad Sagarin was last year.
Sagarin Texas #15, AP #25
Sagarin KState #26, AP #38 (the way you calculate it)
Sagarin OSU #22, AP didn't even get a vote for top 25, so below #40
Sagarin ISU #28, AP didn't even get a vote for top 25, so below #40.

Sagarin so overrated all the Big12 teams, of course the SOS was totally inaccurate, and way out of line with every other SOS metric. Just 4 Big12 teams alone he overrated them by at least 52 ratings spots.

 

[iahawks]

Tons of Iowa Hawkeye fan message boards yet you'd rather post on an Iowa State one. LOL

Do as I say, not as I do! At least that is what I tell the kids.

 

[CyTwins]

If you go by AP, you can't use Sagarin SOS.

Yes you can. AP doesn't have SOS so you go to the best SOS metric which is Sagarin

 

[cycloner29]

Anyone else are 'ol friend Yeahbuddy and his daily worship of Jeff Sagarin?

 

[Legend Hawk]

Yes you can. AP doesn't have SOS so you go to the best SOS metric which is Sagarin

How can Sagarin SOS rating be good if they don't use the AP ratings? Giving ISU credit for playing the the #15, #22 and #26 teams when those teams were actually #25, #38, and lower than #40 is a joke of a metric.

 

[CyTwins]

How can Sagarin SOS rating be good if they don't use the AP ratings? Giving ISU credit for playing the the #15, #22 and #26 teams when those teams were actually #25, #38, and lower than #40 is a joke of a metric.

So what SOS metric is good?

 

[Legend Hawk]

So what SOS metric is good?

They are all flawed, they are only as good as their ratings. That is why I use a bunch of them and go with what the majority find. Last year a majority of reputable SOS metrics said Iowa had a tougher SOS, and Sagarin was a crazy bad outlier compared to most. That was mostly due to the fact that Sagarin completely overrated several Big12 teams. And we both know they were crazy overrated, because they weren't even close to what we both use, the AP poll. That is crazy saying the #25 team is #15, and a team who didn't eve receive a top 25 AP vote was #22. That is just horribly bad.

 

[CyTwins]

They are all flawed, they are only as good as their ratings. That is why I use a bunch of them and go with what the majority find. Last year a majority of reputable SOS metrics said Iowa had a tougher SOS, and Sagarin was a crazy bad outlier compared to most. That was mostly due to the fact that Sagarin completely overrated several Big12 teams. And we both know they were crazy overrated, because they weren't even close to what we both use, the AP poll. That is crazy saying the #25 team is #15, and a team who didn't eve receive a top 25 AP vote was #22. That is just horribly bad.

So if you use the AP poll you can't talk about SOS? Lol OK

 

[CyCrazy]

Is he ever not trolling? Basically if you engage with him you are responding to trolling.

Is someone forcing you to respond?

 

[CyTwins]

Newell is average.

 

[TRYHARDER]

8 of the 10 centers in your conference made it. At least he wasn't 1 of the other 2!

 

[CyTwins]

8 of the 10 centers in your conference made it. At least he wasn't 1 of the other 2!

When you're the best offensive conference in the country that makes sense

 

[SouthernCy]

I watched all of the ULL, TCU, and OU games. I didn't catch much of the Tech game, had other obligations.

I'll watch most ISU football games, unless it competes with an Iowa game.




Watching ISU football is "pathetic"?

No, lurking on your rivals fan page is