Physics and math are ranked one and two while education and public administration rec'd the lowest rankings.
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Academic fields ranked by GRE scores
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I will say that being a teacher is less about knowledge and more about presentation and management skills. Most everyone can remember a teacher who was an absolute genius but didn't have the skills to pass on that knowledge to their students. This is not to say that teachers are dumb by any means, but there is more to a person than a GRE score. People who tend to score high on standardized scores typically excel in solely standard intelligence. Great teachers have highly proficient in a variety of the multiple intelligences.
That being said, it still is sad that it's the second to lowest field.
That being said, it still is sad that it's the second to lowest field.
I recently took the GRE, and there was not an analytical section that was scored like this. It was a writing component that was scored from 1 to 5.
What year is this chart from?
What year is this chart from?
That would explain it.
Plus, I don't think my discipline is even on there. I will assume that it was omitted from the very top of the chart.:wink:
Really, I think it depends on what level you teach. Collegiate level, you need a very high mastery of your section. HS/MS, not as high of a level, but high enough to know how to everything in the field works and how to break it down enough to have the students build up to it. MS, a cross between HS and EL. EL, you need more management control than particular knowledge of the subject(s) and it's intricacies.
That's the operative right there. The GRE measures basically math, reading, and ability to write an essay. While my field has pieces of that, none of those are a direct correlation. Can't quantitatively measure creativity. Honestly the results of my GRE worked like this: Top 95% on verbal reasoning, 5 out of 5 on the analytical writing, but could've qualified for a learning disability on the quantitative reasoning. I hadn't taken a math course since I was 16. I didn't use the advanced mathematics in my everyday life. You don't use it, you lose it. I'm a very intelligent person, but if you judged me soley on my GRE, you wouldn't get that.
I think another factor in this is that most people getting a PhD in education are doing so to head into administration. Professors get PhD's in their relative field, not education (unless they're professors of education).
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Really, this comes off as offensive. It sounds like a blanket statement that teachers are borderline the dumbest in class.
SAT scores of teacher wannabes
Of course, we don't want to offend anyone. Especially when not offending anyone is your primary goal...
Of course, we don't want to offend anyone. Especially when not offending anyone is your primary goal...
It is neither cheap nor petty rationalization to say that a person is more than the sum of their test scores.
I hope everyone has had the good fortune to have studied under a teacher that believed that.
And if you feel you can do it better, be my guest. . . We'd love to have the problem of an oversurplus of educators.
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You do realize that if you major in Education, you're going to be teaching pre-k - 7th grade, right? If you want to teach actual theories of subjects you major in the field you will be teaching.
It's just my experience that everyone equates a degree in education to be equal to that of a teacher at any level.
The GMAT has a writing section scored from 1 to X. Is the GRE changing to become more like the GMAT?
I still think that it is silly to have both. I have taken the GMAT and now have to take the GRE 1.5 years later.
I couldn't agree more. I'd give you rep, but apparently I'm repped out on you for a while
Not sure, I never took the GMAT. I applied to a program that required the GRE, took the test, and then got accepted to a program that didn't require the GRE.
So, I basically did it for the fun of it.
Good luck on yours! Study hard.
The hardest thing for me with the GRE is the space of time since I had utilized that knowledge. I really would have been best taking it right out of high school. It's nothing you haven't already learned, it's just you really do need to review it. My problem is that I didn't review as intensively as I planned (a friend passed away). And after I took it, I changed plans and so I didn't bother retaking it. So I guess I took it for fun too (because most school won't take GRE scores that are more than 4 years old).
If anyone's interested, here's a pseudo-scientific way to estimate your IQ through GRE/SAT translation.
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/GREIQ.aspx
And as far as teachers being low on the GRE chart, I believe in Gardner's Theory of Multiple Intelligences. IQ, or standardized tests in general, don't tell the whole story, by any means.
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/GREIQ.aspx
And as far as teachers being low on the GRE chart, I believe in Gardner's Theory of Multiple Intelligences. IQ, or standardized tests in general, don't tell the whole story, by any means.
The GRE analytical writing section is scored from 1-6 in increments of 0.5....
If the verbal and quantitative were scaled equally you would see less disparity in total scores. All that data really shows is the weakness of the test, itself, is in the quantitative section. It doesn't imply any sort of general intelligence ranking.
Also, there are several different GRE tests, such as Psychology, Biology, etc.. which carries its own score up to 800. If it is comparing those different tests then this table is downright ridiculous.
If the verbal and quantitative were scaled equally you would see less disparity in total scores. All that data really shows is the weakness of the test, itself, is in the quantitative section. It doesn't imply any sort of general intelligence ranking.
Also, there are several different GRE tests, such as Psychology, Biology, etc.. which carries its own score up to 800. If it is comparing those different tests then this table is downright ridiculous.
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