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They are higher because they've played a road game against an undefeated team would be my guess. The RPI is meaningless until at least conference games start.
CycloneErik
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Ours looks bad because it's early and we're playing a garbage schedule.
Play good teams, it's rewarded. Play these teams, it is not.
That's the quick and simple of it.
Play good teams, it's rewarded. Play these teams, it is not.
That's the quick and simple of it.
"RPI is made up of three components: 25 percent comes from a team's own winning percentage, 50 percent from its opponents' winning percentage, and 25 percent from of its opponents' opponents' winning percentage."
From what I understand, the biggest problem with RPI is it's over emphasis on strength of schedule. Who you play is generally more important than who you win or lose to. So beating bad teams can cause you to drop while losing to good teams is rewarded. It also doesn't take into account margin of victory. The consensus seems to be that this is an outdated method of ranking teams.
From what I understand, the biggest problem with RPI is it's over emphasis on strength of schedule. Who you play is generally more important than who you win or lose to. So beating bad teams can cause you to drop while losing to good teams is rewarded. It also doesn't take into account margin of victory. The consensus seems to be that this is an outdated method of ranking teams.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rating_Percentage_Index
Your rank is made up of:
Your winning percentage (25% of rank)
Your opponents winning percentage (50% of rank)
Your opponents opponents winning percentage (25% of rank)
TL;DR: We've played a bunch of horrible teams, so our RPI is horrible
Your rank is made up of:
Your winning percentage (25% of rank)
Your opponents winning percentage (50% of rank)
Your opponents opponents winning percentage (25% of rank)
TL;DR: We've played a bunch of horrible teams, so our RPI is horrible
It comes down to if you have a rating system that only uses W/L and not margin of victory, there's two options:
1) a system where wins always moves your rating up even if against bad teams, and losses always move you down, an example is the Elo rating system
2) a system where losses to good teams is sometimes viewed more favorably than wins against bad teams, RPI is an example
The problem with the first is when a team has control over it's schedule, it can be advantageous to not play many good teams and improve your rating by loading up on cupcakes. The RPI isn't perfect but it has had a positive effect on college BB scheduling overall and is generally reasonably accurate by the end of the year.
1) a system where wins always moves your rating up even if against bad teams, and losses always move you down, an example is the Elo rating system
2) a system where losses to good teams is sometimes viewed more favorably than wins against bad teams, RPI is an example
The problem with the first is when a team has control over it's schedule, it can be advantageous to not play many good teams and improve your rating by loading up on cupcakes. The RPI isn't perfect but it has had a positive effect on college BB scheduling overall and is generally reasonably accurate by the end of the year.
By using the current RPI formula and having it weigh heavily it has accomplished one great thing, and that is lots of P5 non con matchups. I like it for that reason. It's a little crazy that you can win even in conference and drop.
Other than having to break in a young team, you pretty much want as tough a non con as possible.
Other than having to break in a young team, you pretty much want as tough a non con as possible.
It cannot be explained. It is beyond understanding. A mystery we should not strive to understand.
It's possible but would take a combination of losing to another top team and having enough cushion that no one jumps you.
As for this part, the vs. "Top 100" et al is based on opponents' current RPI, so those numbers will change as season progresses.
To show how early it is, ISU has one top-50 win: The Citadel! (it was 40 before the game -- although results & ranks haven't been updated after Citadel game yet, when I checked ... TC's rank is going to begin dropping fast).
I am sorry but if Prohm is going to run a program that can't be better RPI ranked than 85th at 12:54 on November 21st than I don't know where this is headed.
We are ranked 79 spots behind Elon... SEVENTY ******* NINE SPOTS ... ******* ELON PEOPLE!!!!
You also only get .6 credit for home wins and 1.4 credit for road wins I think. We played all home games, against bad competition, it's going to be bad.
That said I think it's underrated, as really most people only actually care about the outcome of games, against the schedule, and not a lot of other tomfoolery that goes into some other metrics.
That said I think it's underrated, as really most people only actually care about the outcome of games, against the schedule, and not a lot of other tomfoolery that goes into some other metrics.
