Didn’t see that anyone had started a thread on this yet.
Europe looks loaded to me. Going to be tough for the U.S. IMO.
Europe looks loaded to me. Going to be tough for the U.S. IMO.
***2023 Ryder Cup***
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DraftKings has it:
Europe +100
USA +105
Tie +900
US slight favorites to retain the cup.
It's really a tossup IMO. Two very talented teams. I'd give the slightest advantage to Europe given the home course.
Two guys are keys in my mind. One is playing and the other isn’t.
- Justin Thomas playing for the US: well documented and much discussed, he has NOT been playing well recently, to the point him even being on the team caused a bit of a stir. That said, he is one of the most successful US players in this format in recent Cups. His record is very, very good. In his young career, he‘a 6-2-1.
- Sergio Garcia not playing for Europe: Sergio absolutely mashes in this format. The US crushed Europe at Whistling Straits in 2021, and it would have been much, much worse without Garcia. Overall score was 19-9 US, while Sergio went 3-1. All time he is 25-13-7, most wins and points in Ryder Cup history (regardless of team), which is kind of remarkable.
- Justin Thomas playing for the US: well documented and much discussed, he has NOT been playing well recently, to the point him even being on the team caused a bit of a stir. That said, he is one of the most successful US players in this format in recent Cups. His record is very, very good. In his young career, he‘a 6-2-1.
- Sergio Garcia not playing for Europe: Sergio absolutely mashes in this format. The US crushed Europe at Whistling Straits in 2021, and it would have been much, much worse without Garcia. Overall score was 19-9 US, while Sergio went 3-1. All time he is 25-13-7, most wins and points in Ryder Cup history (regardless of team), which is kind of remarkable.
Projected Teams
JT/Spieth: Is JT improved? Does Spieth have baby brain? If the answers are yes and no, this is a tough, tough team
Cantlay/Schauffele: This team is so under appreciated, it’s almost criminal. They are best friends and play like they’ve been married for 50 years. Good to great pairing.
Brooks/Scheffler: Can’t wait to see this team play, especially since Scottie has a new putting coach and grip.
Morikawa/Burns? Could be a good team, simply due to Morikawa’s ball striking.
Homa/Clark? This team could be really dangerous. Just hope Clark didn’t jam his foot in his mouth talking a bit of low key smack about Rory. It wasn’t much, but it could be in this type of environment
Fowler/Harmon? I like both guys. Just not sure.
JT/Spieth: Is JT improved? Does Spieth have baby brain? If the answers are yes and no, this is a tough, tough team
Cantlay/Schauffele: This team is so under appreciated, it’s almost criminal. They are best friends and play like they’ve been married for 50 years. Good to great pairing.
Brooks/Scheffler: Can’t wait to see this team play, especially since Scottie has a new putting coach and grip.
Morikawa/Burns? Could be a good team, simply due to Morikawa’s ball striking.
Homa/Clark? This team could be really dangerous. Just hope Clark didn’t jam his foot in his mouth talking a bit of low key smack about Rory. It wasn’t much, but it could be in this type of environment
Fowler/Harmon? I like both guys. Just not sure.
I think it's really even and could go either way. I really like the US's chances with some new faces that are hungry to prove themselves.
I love the Ryder Cup - especially in Europe.
Its the only time the best players in the world have to try to win on the road, and play as a team.
Such great drama - its the best!
Its the only time the best players in the world have to try to win on the road, and play as a team.
Such great drama - its the best!
What time of day will this be live on TV in the U.S.?
We normally play like dog sh*t in Europe, and we don’t seem to care as much, so my expectations are pretty low.
So Europe wouldn’t allow LIV players on their team, right? So why did we?
We normally play like dog sh*t in Europe, and we don’t seem to care as much, so my expectations are pretty low.
So Europe wouldn’t allow LIV players on their team, right? So why did we?
I think it will be shown live at somewhere around 2:30 am CST. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that timeframe.
It's up to the coaches to decide who makes the team. I think Koepka is the only LIV player to make either team. Probably because he won a major.
Koepka almost automatically qualified based on majors alone. It would be stupid not to take him, and the guy shows up for the big ones
Who is Europe's LIV guy that would have made their team much better than it is without them?
Viewing schedule isn't ideal but here is what we're looking at for the weekend:
Hopefully moving on from guys like Mickelson, Reed, Bubba and replacing them with guys like Schauffele, Morikawa, Cantlay and Scheffler is the secret.
“Ego” is a good thing for regular tour events. The Ryder Cup is a completely different animal. The guys on Team USA now are much less ego-centric than past teams.
In the Ryder Cup, give me a guy like Brian Harman over Bubba Watson every time.
In his first two Cups, he was 6-0-1. It went south on him his third go around (2018)…about the same time he started becoming a distraction.
Guy won the Masters in 2018, and quickly turned into a massive douche that nobody wanted to be around.
I watched a little snippet about Seve Ballesteros last night. It is incredible the impact he had for his playing partners throughout his Ryder Cup career. We all know about his partnership with Jose Maria Olazabel (the “Spanish Armada”), but he partnered with other guys nobody had heard of before or since who led Team Europe in points a few times. The power of a positive, invested and respected playing partner cannot be overstated.
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