***2023 College Football Playoff Rankings***

HFCS

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I see the annual Ohio State boner is completely erect already.

Understand a bit why they are 1, but at the same time I don’t think the two-time defending champs Georgia have done anything not to be 1.

Then we got to listen to Reece Davis try to talk with the Buckeyes’ knob in his mouth. Ohio State was lucky Marcus Freeman was stupid that night because Notre Dame should have won that game.

The whole panel aside from McElroy talked about how you have looked and eye test despite if you have lost head to head to someone. They kept going on how Oregon, despite losing to Washington is the better team and should/could be ranked ahead of the Huskies. What’s the point of playing the game?

McElroy said the same about OU and Texas that when all things are equal, head to head should decide it. The others all disagreed that those two teams were equal because OU squeaked by in a rivalry game against UT. Huh? Oklahoma basically dominated that game until the fourth quarter and in the end, they won and both teams have the same record with 1 loss.

For being such an incredibly small committee they have absolutely no clear criteria. It's different year to year, month to month and day to day. The one consistent is coming at it from Ohio State's particular angle on a give week.

The big dance selection committee is radically better and more transparent in lots of ways.

The old ranking system with many hundreds of voices and 1/3 just data was even better than the hoops committee. Only problem was using it to fill a 2 team playoff.

If you use a poll with hundreds or thousands of voters the criteria doesn't really matter. When the committee is so small and the obvious bias of the members can be calculated in ten seconds, the lack of strong criteria is just a flashing red light failure.
 

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This honestly might be the best the committee has ever done on their first rankings of the season.
 

Clonehomer

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I see the annual Ohio State boner is completely erect already.

Understand a bit why they are 1, but at the same time I don’t think the two-time defending champs Georgia have done anything not to be 1.

Then we got to listen to Reece Davis try to talk with the Buckeyes’ knob in his mouth. Ohio State was lucky Marcus Freeman was stupid that night because Notre Dame should have won that game.

The whole panel aside from McElroy talked about how you have looked and eye test despite if you have lost head to head to someone. They kept going on how Oregon, despite losing to Washington is the better team and should/could be ranked ahead of the Huskies. What’s the point of playing the game?

McElroy said the same about OU and Texas that when all things are equal, head to head should decide it. The others all disagreed that those two teams were equal because OU squeaked by in a rivalry game against UT. Huh? Oklahoma basically dominated that game until the fourth quarter and in the end, they won and both teams have the same record with 1 loss.

Strength of schedule has to matter. Michigan and Georgia haven’t done anything to show they are better than tOSU. Michigan will have a chance to change that. Georgia will need to hope one of them lose to get the #1 spot this year.
 
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Clonehomer

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All this ranking does tonight is start the BS argument that a 1-loss Ohio state (after inevitably losing to Michigan) should get in over a 1-loss big 12, pac-12 or acc champion.

I’m not going to argue that a 1 loss Big 12 or ACC team deserves a spot over a 1 loss Big10 team this year. But a 1 loss PAC team absolutely deserves a spot over a 1 loss Big10 division runner up. That conference is deep with a lot of different styles to test you.

To me, this is the CFP lineup this year
SEC champ
Big10 champ
PAC champ
FSU, OuT (champ), or Big10 E runner up (in that order based on record)
 
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HFCS

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All this ranking does tonight is start the BS argument that a 1-loss Ohio state (after inevitably losing to Michigan) should get in over a 1-loss big 12, pac-12 or acc champion.

And it’s a small handful of people where on average the big ten has the most direct ties. Some very clear criteria or a larger more representative committee is badly needed.
 

HFCS

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I’m not going to argue that a 1 loss Big 12 or ACC team deserves a spot over a 1 loss Big10 team this year. But a 1 loss PAC team absolutely deserves a spot over a 1 loss Big10 division runner up. That conference is deep with a lot of different styles to test you.

To me, this is the CFP lineup this year
SEC champ
Big10 champ
PAC champ
FSU, OuT (champ), or Big10 E runner up (in that order based on record)

The big 12 has graded out stronger than big ten most years this century, just not this year. Even last year it graded out in Sagarin as stronger than just the big ten east let alone the whole league.

Agree they cannot wedge two big ten teams in this year at expense of pac.
 
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StLouisClone

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I agree with Clonehomer. The B10 and SEC winners are locks for a CFP bid. The P12 winner should also be a lock. That means Florida State takes the 4th spot unless they incur 2 losses down the stretch. If that happens, there are about 12 teams that still have a chance (including Mizzou, OU, Texas and even KSU).
 

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Big 10 human bias having the squaks ranked. They need to have it by computer and point system using record, scores and strength of schedule to determine rankings.
 

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