The NCAA tournament brings in just about as much money as the CFP. The basketball conferences could push to have an independent tournament similar to the CFP with the revenue going to the conferences rather than the NCAA. But that would be the end of the NCAA and Olympic sports championships. Cause that’s what basketball pays for.
SEC/Big10 Pushing for 16 Team Playoff
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The NCAA tournament brings in just about as much money as the CFP. The basketball conferences could push to have an independent tournament similar to the CFP with the revenue going to the conferences rather than the NCAA. But that would be the end of the NCAA and Olympic sports championships. Cause that’s what basketball pays for.
See, I thought the discussion was about the CFP and their “need” for automatic qualifiers. The point is to maximize their piece of the CFP TV money. If the Big12 and Big East were to demand #1 seeds and 2/3 of the TV revenue worth $1B annually, you’d be fine with that?
I honestly don't care all that much about any of it. There are few things I seriously care less about than the amount of revenue Iowa athletics brings in from media and bowl/CFP.
The problem with your argument is that the Big 12 and the Big East aren't in a position to make any kind of demands like that on the NCAA tourney. If they were, they would. Lol.
You can say that because you are the fan of school that is getting this money, and if it all goes to crap, EIU will be left standing, with a seat at the table. Schools in the B12 and ACC may not be around or at least getting enough money from their media deals to stay competitive in the future. I know many EIU fans cannot wait for that day to arrive, if it does, and will gloat over it, just like they do now, that ISU was forced to drop baseball because of what it was costing the athletic department.
I mean it's crazy to think, some schools struggling now and will in the future, while others will be fine, just because they just so happen to join the B10 and SEC, decades ago. Is a school like Minnesota really that much of a better get than Iowa State or Kansas State in the grand scheme of things?
I'm more enthused that we have an amazing new AD and no longer have the Human Lapel Pin Gary Barta.
You seriously can’t believe this? We would sign the paperwork for a Big 10 like deal as fast humanly possible.
I think everyone understands that pure chance had a lot to do with current conference membership for a lot of schools. I bet lots of ACC schools are thinking the same thing these days. For instance Georgia Tech was a founding member of the SEC but left in the 60s. It wasn’t until the TV contracts started getting enormous that it started to matter which conferences had the most TV sets.
That's true. Clemson carrying the ACC flag for the past 10 years, but when looking deeper, the rest of the conference was a dump.
You dont care about any of this because your school is in one of the conferences creating the issue and wrecking college sports as we've all known and loved, yet you're here. You would care if u weren't in the Big 10 or SEC.
Correct. It would be one of the biggest/most significant/most important things to EVER happen to Iowa State, and the state of collegiate athletics in Iowa. And that is probably underestimating it.
Where is the line when fanbases start revolting a la European soccer? I used to think the Big 10 was untouchable because nobody is up their own ass more than that conference dating back 125 years. But they threw all of that out the window. Do fans of the big teams really want to play in a 24 team league and consider 8-4 a good year? College football's biggest asset is its tradition and nostalgia. At what point do fans say the paycheck (money they never see) isn't worth the loss of a traditional college football Saturday? Most fans I talk to from every league hate what's happening, but not enough to feel like they can do anything about it.
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Most don't like the current set up, but they also understand it's better to be in their position than be in a conference like the ACC or B12 that may end up like the P12. For many their hope is if they go to 24 schools, that the league will be broken up into divisions, and the lesser teams can at least win the division. If you are one of many schools in the B10, your chance of getting into the championship game is almost nil, but Indiana proved last year that with an easy schedule you can still get into the playoff coming out of the B10 or SEC if you get to 10 wins overall.
Honestly for most big ten and SEC fans no one really has a problem with the new league sizes or schedules that I have talked to. It’s usually more transfer portal and NIL that people have a problem with then any league changes.
More people (in the big ten at least) are more annoyed having Nebraska then any of the new additions
You must be engaged with some short sighted fans who care only about FB.
if you took a vote of the original 10/11 B10 Presidents and ADs, they would overwhelmingly vote for downsizing back to those core 10/11 schools and even take a slight payout cut in doing so. And most of their fan bases would do likewise.
The only benefit of the 18 team B10 is that it creates like 4 extra compelling FB matchups for Fox and that’s it. And 2 or 3 of those game could easily be flipped to non con matchups with smart scheduling.
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Man you go back and forth on this, one point you talk about greed always winning out and now you talk about schools willing to take a pay cut so which is it?
Most fans do only care about football and basketball, some hockey fans and the occasional baseball fan but that’s about it for most schools.
It was telling when SMU ran through them, unlike when the G5s joined the B12.
It's greed, but most fans do not like not playing the original members of the conference as much as they used too. Like most things, I bet most of fans would like to go back to the old conferences, but also realize that is never going to happen and they like the money they are getting.
Not going back and forth about anything. Majority of P4 Presidents, ADs and fans dislike the oversized conferences including the B10.
