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There’s roughly 400-500 4-5 stars (around 11% of athletes ranked in 247per class). But keep in mind there are kids from multiple classes here (seniors, juniors, redshirts, Covid year kids, etc.)

So you actually have a pool of well over 1,000 kids who are 4-5 stars. And you can pretty easily identify a kid has NFL potential simply based on which schools are offering them. Give me the pool of kids Bama, Texas, Georgia, A&M, OSU, Michigan, Penn State, USC offered. I’ll rank them all 4-5 stars and probably get 80%+ of first round picks right
It would be interesting to see how it has evolved over time. My guess is that the recruiting ratings get slowly better every year, to the point where there are eventually much fewer under-the-radar kids. There will always be some kids that come out of nowhere and end up being great, but it feels like over time it’s becoming less common, which is of course disappointing for the non-blue blood programs that try to develop kids instead.
 

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Sports shows bit##ing that Sanders was robbed of the chance of him not going in the 1st round. White owners, hatred of his dad, and his attitude, etc. Maybe they thought he wasn’t worthy of No. 1 pick.
He's not worthy of a #1 pick. His record at Colo was barely above .500, He lead the conference (possibly the nation) in taking sacks... and his self righteous attitude is a headache a lot of teams will pass on.

Perhaps sliding out of the 1st round will give him motivation to get his act together.
 

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Sports shows bit##ing that Sanders was robbed of the chance of him not going in the 1st round. White owners, hatred of his dad, and his attitude, etc. Maybe they thought he wasn’t worthy of No. 1 pick.
I’m guessing he goes Raiders because of Brady.
 

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He's not worthy of a #1 pick. His record at Colo was barely above .500, He lead the conference (possibly the nation) in taking sacks... and his self righteous attitude is a headache a lot of teams will pass on.

Perhaps sliding out of the 1st round will give him motivation to get his act together.
That scout’s take ended with BTW he’s not that good.
 

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He's not worthy of a #1 pick. His record at Colo was barely above .500, He lead the conference (possibly the nation) in taking sacks... and his self righteous attitude is a headache a lot of teams will pass on.

Perhaps sliding out of the 1st round will give him motivation to get his act together.
Kid is worse than being born on 3rd base and thinking he hit a triple. Something more akin to teeing off 3 inches from the cup and thinking he hit a hole in one.
 

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I think another huge factor that hasn't been discussed much nationally that I've seen is that teams that need a quarterback (with the exception of the Steelers) have coaches and GMs that could be on the hot seat. If you draft Deion's kid, and have a 3-4 win season, he could sell himself to an owner that he can come in and take your job and coach his kid.
I highly suspect that is a factor that has been discussed by teams like the Giants, possibly Browns (although Stefanski should be safe), and others. Pair that with the fact that he has a giant ego, takes way to many sacks, and doesn't seem like a team player and that's a quick recipe to not take him.
 

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I hate the giants trading up to get Dart. Gave up drafting a potential contributors at 34 and 99 to get a developmental guy who will likely start the season on the bench. Dart doesn’t help them win next season. But they gave up a chance to get the DT from Toledo (Alexander) or the DT from Texas (Collins), both would have helped out run defense. No OL depth pieces to challenge 34-year-old Van Roten at RG or JMS at center.

This is why we suck.
The Giants suck because you don’t know what you’re talking about?

Hmm. Interesting take.
 

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It would be interesting to see how it has evolved over time. My guess is that the recruiting ratings get slowly better every year, to the point where there are eventually much fewer under-the-radar kids. There will always be some kids that come out of nowhere and end up being great, but it feels like over time it’s becoming less common, which is of course disappointing for the non-blue blood programs that try to develop kids instead.
High schools in state like Texas and others have pushed weight training and playing one sport to the point that are lot of these kids are not going to improve during college as kids from state like Iowa where we just have less of it going on at a high level. So the Texas kid comes in at a 3 star and gets a little better, while the kid from the smaller school comes in as a 2 or low 3 star recruit, but with weight training, nutrition and better coaches gets to a 4 star player.
 

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I think another huge factor that hasn't been discussed much nationally that I've seen is that teams that need a quarterback (with the exception of the Steelers) have coaches and GMs that could be on the hot seat. If you draft Deion's kid, and have a 3-4 win season, he could sell himself to an owner that he can come in and take your job and coach his kid.
I highly suspect that is a factor that has been discussed by teams like the Giants, possibly Browns (although Stefanski should be safe), and others. Pair that with the fact that he has a giant ego, takes way to many sacks, and doesn't seem like a team player and that's a quick recipe to not take him.
This is why he will probably be drafted as a backup and backups don’t get drafted in the first round.
 

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High schools in state like Texas and others have pushed weight training and playing one sport to the point that are lot of these kids are not going to improve during college as kids from state like Iowa where we just have less of it going on at a high level. So the Texas kid comes in at a 3 star and gets a little better, while the kid from the smaller school comes in as a 2 or low 3 star recruit, but with weight training, nutrition and better coaches gets to a 4 star player.

All football players at my Iowa HS lifted weights year round starting freshman year, and that was 20 years ago. I'd be shocked if the majority of high schools nationwide don't have similar requirements nowadays. Not arguing that TX HS football is on another level, but I don't think it's due to a lack of lifting.
 

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All football players at my Iowa HS lifted weights year round starting freshman year, and that was 20 years ago. I'd be shocked if the majority of high schools nationwide don't have similar requirements nowadays. Not arguing that TX HS football is on another level, but I don't think it's due to a lack of lifting.
There is lifting and then what is going on at many of the Texas schools. They are treating it just like they do in college, best of everything, with full time strength coaches, not some PE teacher or part time coach. Do they get that type of training at Dowling, Valley and a few others, sure do, but at most schools they just cannot afford it.
 
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