Iowa Childrens Hospital window whoopsie

[cyfan964]

University of Iowa Faces $52M Window Replacement at Children's Hospital

The University of Iowa could be forced to spend more than $50 million to replace damaged windows throughout its children’s hospital.

www.usglassmag.com

Eeeesshh... Will be an interesting story to follow.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

Contractor better ask for 90% up front so they don't get stiffed by the Hawks.

 

[BoxsterCy]

Should be an interesting thread. The state university hospital gets screwed by defective materials and can't get the contractors to back their crap product so the state gets screwed and stuck with millions in costs that it should never have to incur and this thread will be about Hawkeye rivalry stuff.

My expensive windows from a major window manufacturer started rotting out at 15-20 years and I am stuck replacing them. Seems the state has as little recourse as I do.

 

[JM4CY]

Should be an interesting thread. The state university hospital gets screwed by defective materials and can't get the contractors to back their crap product so the state gets screwed and stuck with millions in costs that it should never have to incur and this thread will be about Hawkeye rivalry stuff.

My expensive windows from a major window manufacturer started rotting out at 15-20 years and I am stuck replacing them. Seems the state has as little recourse as I do.

I want no part of dumb attacks on that hospital. That place is a godsend to this state.

 

[cyfan964]

Should be an interesting thread. The state university hospital gets screwed by defective materials and can't get the contractors to back their crap product so the state gets screwed and stuck with millions in costs that it should never have to incur and this thread will be about Hawkeye rivalry stuff.

My expensive windows from a major window manufacturer started rotting out at 15-20 years and I am stuck replacing them. Seems the state has as little recourse as I do.

I'm hoping people are smart enough to realize that the Childrens Hospital is an amazing thing and this has very real ramifications for all of us. It's more of a state vs manufacturer/installer thing than a University thing.... which is why it didn't go in the in state rivals forum.

 

[Clonehomer]

Should be an interesting thread. The state university hospital gets screwed by defective materials and can't get the contractors to back their crap product so the state gets screwed and stuck with millions in costs that it should never have to incur and this thread will be about Hawkeye rivalry stuff.

My expensive windows from a major window manufacturer started rotting out at 15-20 years and I am stuck replacing them. Seems the state has as little recourse as I do.

Agreed. The hospital shouldn’t be the one bearing the cost of the repair. Unless it is shown that it was a design problem, the contractor or their insurance company should bear the costs. But it’s going to be difficult as there are so many parties involved that can each point the finger at another.

If the glass is delaminating after such a short time, I’d be looking at the glass supplier. But again, that should be the job of the contractor to address and work with the glass supplier to resolve. That’s why you hire a contractor.

 

[JP4CY]

If the hospital knew at the time of install and were concerned, then it feels like they shouldn't be on the hook, right?

 

[Hoggins]

Maybe they can wave and get new windows

 

[Pope]

Interesting that 4 years ago the University estimated the replacement cost would be $10-15 million and now the estimate is $52 million, so they were only about 400% low. Wow.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Guessing that would bankrupt whoever was found to be at fault

 

[houjix]

Guessing that would bankrupt whoever was found to be at fault

Probably not. All entities involved probably have some sort of insurance. However, there will be a protracted fight by all involved trying to lay blame on someone else. Designer has to prove they picked the right product for the application. Contractor has to prove they installed it correctly. Manufacturer has to prove the product wasn't defective. In the end, there may be some shared responsibility depending on what is actually found to be the cause.

 

[cyfan964]

Probably not. All entities involved probably have some sort of insurance. However, there will be a protracted fight by all involved trying to lay blame on someone else. Designer has to prove they picked the right product for the application. Contractor has to prove they installed it correctly. Manufacturer has to prove the product wasn't defective. In the end, there may be some shared responsibility depending on what is actually found to be the cause.

Correct. This is going to be a long, drawn out thing.... but the hospital sounds like it needs new windows NOW. Who pays for it to happen now?

 

[Cyclonepride]

Probably not. All entities involved probably have some sort of insurance. However, there will be a protracted fight by all involved trying to lay blame on someone else. Designer has to prove they picked the right product for the application. Contractor has to prove they installed it correctly. Manufacturer has to prove the product wasn't defective. In the end, there may be some shared responsibility depending on what is actually found to be the cause.

Insurance doesn't cover workmanship unless they have that coverage, but yes, it will probably be shared (and then lawsuits between them might begin).

 

[BCClone]

Interesting that 4 years ago the University estimated the replacement cost would be $10-15 million and now the estimate is $52 million, so they were only about 400% low. Wow.

That 10-15 MM was for two floors only. Reading the article helps

 

[Pope]

That 10-15 MM was for two floors only. Reading the article helps

My bad. I admittedly did not read the article carefully enough. I'll do better next time.

 

[clonechemist]

Guessing that would bankrupt whoever was found to be at fault

Is that how the free market is supposed to work?

 

[carvers4math]

My bad. I admittedly did not read the article carefully enough. I'll do better next time.

It’s understandable with double pneumonia, your holiness

 

[CyCrazy]

Well doubt they pay the contractors.

 

[wxman1]

I say this as someone who should not be trusted to build much on his own. It was fairly surprising when we were in there for some stuff that the floor was not level to the point that the nurses had to lock the wheels of stuff or it would roll away. They made it sound like it was a common thing in that area if not the whole building.

 

[Cyhig]

The article said a judge dismissed the case without prejudice earlier. It would be interesting to know WHY the judge dismissed the case.