This. I can't even start to explain how insanely terrible that is. I know we are normally on the outskirts of realignment talk, but this is...
Conference realignment by Pat Forde
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This. I can't even start to explain how insanely terrible that is. I know we are normally on the outskirts of realignment talk, but this is...
The parity in this is just off the charts.
Would Clemson or Penn State ever lose a conference football game again?
Would Clemson or Penn State ever lose a conference football game again?
Could have a round robin schedule. Would only be 2 extra non power 5 schools that we currently do and a lot of people want us to drop Iowa to get another non-power 5 team anyway.
NDSU isn’t in Dallas TX and isn’t a magnet Black Christian athlete destination. Way more of a challenge.
Realigning to seven 10-team conferences with round robin scheduling would facilitate playoff expansion to 8 teams while keeping the existing college football calendar and bowl system intact.
The basis for this realignment would be based on the P10, B10, SEC and ACC (minus Maryland) returning to their 10 team roots, UConn, Wyoming, New Mexico, Boise St and Colorado St would be promoted due to being state flagship schools and geographic fit. BYU would be promoted due to geography and their national LDS following. Notre Dame would remain a FB independent and join the Big East private schools for other sports:
SEC: Auburn, Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss St, LSU, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Vandy, Kentucky
ACC: Miami FL, Florida St, GA Tech, Clemson, South Carolina, Duke, UNC, NC State, Wake Forest, Virginia
Big 10: Ohio ST, Michigan, Mich St, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa
Pac 10: Washington, Wash St, Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, Cal, UCLA, USC, Arizona, AZ State
"Big East": UConn, Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, VA Tech, Penn St, Pitt, Louisville, West Virginia, Maryland
Big 12: Iowa St, Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas, K-State, Oklahoma, Okla St, Texas, Texas A&M, Arkansas
Mountain West: Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, New Mexico, Colorado, Colorado St, Utah, BYU, Wyoming, Boise St
For the CFP, you would have the 7 conference champs as auto qualifiers with 1 at-large. Quarterfinal CFP games at the 4 highest seeds would replace the conference championship games. The bowl system remains intact.
Then also create 6 new realigned 10-team conferences out of the remaining Group of 5 schools and add North Dakota St to make 60 teams. Have a separate playoff and national champ for those teams within the existing bowl system. Doing so would create additional TV revenue streams and interest for those 60 schools.
Why would you add teams like Wyoming, New Mexico, etc. just to get to an unnatural number of 7 conferences?
The ideal scenario for television, competitive scheduling, bowls, etc. is 4 conferences of 16 teams. Each have 8 team divisions. The conference division champs play in a conference championship which is a de facto 1st round of the playoffs.
Regular season schedule always includes the other 7 teams in your division. I would add a rotating schedule beyond that of either teams from the other side of the conference and a specified crossover division which rotates after H/A two seasons. Much like the NFL. Regular season matchups would be awesome from start to finish.
The 64 teams no longer play teams outside of the big boys. Split up bowl games much like now, where some do include the next level (i.e Sun Belt, MWC, etc.).
This is true, their 2014 team was one of the best 4 teams in college football that year and got screwed over. But they also were dominating the MW conference before that, much more than they ever have the Big 12. Since joining the league they are 10 over, much of that is due to the stretch of 2014 to 2016 when they were averaging 11 wins a year.
They are also helped by being in Dallas metroplex, plenty of talent around them. N. Dakota would not have those advantages with loads of talent within an easy car drive to the campus.
How many people does the Fargo Dome hold? Try 18,700 for football, not nearly large enough for a P5 school. How many people are going to want to road trip to N. Dakota to take in a game in Fargo during November?
I agree that you can't compare NDSU to TCU. I'm not sure why the original poster even tried.
At least the Great Midwest has 8 P5 teams. The Great MidEast and Deep South only have 5.
Forde's proposal is unrealistic for a couple big reasons:
It's probably easiest for divisions to be 11 teams and then allow 2 non-division games. That allows for rivalries like Mich v OSU or FL v GA or OU v UT to continue without the teams having to be in the same division. For rivalries like Iowa v ISU where teams are traditionally not in Top 10- then being in same division makes sense.
If the 2020 season is to happen, I could see a an 8-10 game schedule with only regional games. So having ISU play Nebraska, Minnesota, Mizzou, etc. might be safer.
it would reduce costs to just take bus trips. In some cases teams may elect same day travel.
- P5 teams are not going to share TV revenue with 50 more teams that networks are not going to pay to put on TV.
- His divisions are 100% geographic. In designing divisions, it needs to balance geography and traditional team ranking.
It's probably easiest for divisions to be 11 teams and then allow 2 non-division games. That allows for rivalries like Mich v OSU or FL v GA or OU v UT to continue without the teams having to be in the same division. For rivalries like Iowa v ISU where teams are traditionally not in Top 10- then being in same division makes sense.
If the 2020 season is to happen, I could see a an 8-10 game schedule with only regional games. So having ISU play Nebraska, Minnesota, Mizzou, etc. might be safer.
it would reduce costs to just take bus trips. In some cases teams may elect same day travel.
10 team conferences work best for both football and basketball as well as all other sports.
ISU's experience in the 10 team B12 proves that. 16 team conferences are extreme clusterducks for practically all sports.
The new teams added are perfect geographic fits as well as adding new states/coverage to the top tier, e.g. Wyoming, Idaho (Boise State), UConn and New Mexico without pro sports teams/
Yes, but what would they do when they have to play Kansas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, K-State, Iowa, and Iowa State in the same year? They'd fall apart.
TCU was a top 20 program in 1A out of the Mt. West. A lot different than 1AA. NDSU would end up like Marshall or App St.
It seems far more likely (though still unlikely) that the power conferences would merge (with some small additions) and the smaller conferences would almost form their own divisions (particularly with the oncoming high speed locomotive that is player compensation and endorsements).
NDSU pays total cost of attendance, so a big financial advantage for their players vs a place like UNI.
Instead of coming up with new conferences and realignment, how about we fix the rules that we currently have to level out the playing field for every school now in a P5 conference.
We can start by saying that ALL P5 must play at least 10 games against other P5 schools to be eligible for a bowl game. No more than 2 cream puffs a year is allowed, if you want to go to a bowl. If you want to throw a bone to the G5 schools that is fine, come up with a list of the top 10/15 G5 schools from year to year, and say, if you schedule one of these schools on the list, they count as a P5 school. Looking at USF, Navy, SMU and schools like that. Compile their five year record and update the list every year. You schedule USF for the 2024 season and they are horrible then, its OK.
Enlarge the playoffs to 8 teams, 5 conference winners, next 2 highest ranked teams and then the best school in the G5 if they are in the top say 15 in the AP.
We can start by saying that ALL P5 must play at least 10 games against other P5 schools to be eligible for a bowl game. No more than 2 cream puffs a year is allowed, if you want to go to a bowl. If you want to throw a bone to the G5 schools that is fine, come up with a list of the top 10/15 G5 schools from year to year, and say, if you schedule one of these schools on the list, they count as a P5 school. Looking at USF, Navy, SMU and schools like that. Compile their five year record and update the list every year. You schedule USF for the 2024 season and they are horrible then, its OK.
Enlarge the playoffs to 8 teams, 5 conference winners, next 2 highest ranked teams and then the best school in the G5 if they are in the top say 15 in the AP.
