Bowen Born
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Iowa got a top 175 kid to fill the PG spot in this class.
Born took a couple unofficial visits to Iowa City, I dont think Fran was close to offering though.
Good post generally, and yes, Wheeler was/is short, but remember --
95.70% on 247 composite
#100 nationally composite
High-major offers from UGA, ISU, and Texas A&M
High school stats are stupid. Thomas averaged 28 ppg and shot 35% from 3 as a senior
You listed 4 year guys and and now you're listing 1 year guys. Most of which were post players. Still an awful take.
It's all relative. I know plenty of kids that averaged 30 ppg who never saw one D1 offer, and they averaged more ppg than kids in their own class that ended up getting D1 offers. So just because Bowen is averaging 40 ppg in class 3A, it doesn't mean that's going to translate to the college level. The physically, athleticism, mentality, rule changes, 3 pt line changes, extra curricular activities are all different in college and all come into play. Everything is different.
I'm not saying that Bowen is not going to be good either, because we're not going to know until a few years down the road. But Grill was recruited by some big time schools for a reason and Bowen is not for a reason.
It’s exhausting. I’m sure there is some other random kid at some other small school in Iowa overmatching their schedule and putting up huge numbers with non P5 size. Where is that kids thread? Mike was a good Cyclone, he’s a good guy. If he thought Bowen could play and thrive at a P5 level he would have him there.
But he isn't available in the spring. It was either offer him a scholarship in fall at the expense of another player Prohm did land or he goes to UNI. So it doesn't make sense to compare him to players available in the spring.
If you haven' t watched Born - go watch him. ISU missed! He can score, best ball handler in the state, quick shot, his 1st step is crazy fast, dunks, and scores. Way better than any guard on ISU current roster.
Last night he shot over XF using the backboard and body control - crazy good.
It will be fun to watch him at UNI. Size doesn't matter for him!
Last night he shot over XF using the backboard and body control - crazy good.
It will be fun to watch him at UNI. Size doesn't matter for him!
OK - Caleb Grill averaged 35% in HS and 17% from 3 so far in college, which one you want to use to define his shooting ability?
That's a pretty bold take considering ISU has a likely first rounder on it's current roster.
Terrence Lewis shot 56% from 3 in high school and is a career 30% 3 point shooter at Iowa State. High school stats are pretty meaningless
I get that. Only reason I was making the comparison was because Sigmapolis asked which current player I'd want to kick off the team to bring Born in. I was only stating that it was irrelevant to remove a current player because it will happen regardless, whether via NBA Draft or transfer. In this hypothetical, Born would come in once a scholarship opened up, thus making him a spring signee.
Keep in mind that the vast majority of the teams Born plays against probably don't even have a kid that will play DIII on the roster, let alone DI.
Brooks McKowen scored like a billion points in high school. He was a marginal Mo Valley player. Wyatt Lohaus was Mr. Basketball. Average Mo Valley player. Success at the high school level in Iowa does not equate to being a big, time P5 player.
This might be the dumbest post I've ever seen on this website. I usually only say that to Iowa fans, but this one takes the cake.
Two years ago, Mr. Basketball went to a kid from Gladbrook-Reinbeck. He averaged 30 ppg and is currently playing for Upper Iowa.
Personally, I just hope we can return to the good ol' days of Sean Haluska, Bryan Peterson, Alex Thompson and Clayton Vette.
Grill didn't just get offered by P6 schools.. he got offered by three Big 12 schools, two of them being the teams that were Co - Big 12 Champions last year. He also got offered by Fred at Nebraska. So, if you think Bruce Weber, Steve Prohm, Chris Beard, and Fred Hoiberg are wrong in their assessment of Grill, then I guess that's your opinion.
Mike Born was going to do whatever he could to get his kid into a position to receive big time offers but not one pulled the trigger. There's a reason no school did. If you want to blame it on height, which is a ginormous element in the game of basketball, so be it. I'm sure there are tons of undersized kids that would've been tremendous players if they were a few inches taller. I'm sure there were 6'8" post players who would've gone D1 if they were 6'11", but they weren't.
