Bruce Plays Defense

[surly]

Surly doesn’t like him because he supposedly cheated at KSU and then left after only a year.

Actually, I think the world of Huggins although his recruitment of Beasley was wrapped crooked, no doubt. But Huggins wasn't coaching then as crooked Billy Boy Self has been all along. There's no crooked like Billy Boy and his Ku "program." Huggins, on the other hand, brought the K-State MBB program back from the dreadful dead.

 

[isutrevman]

Bruce Weber has made the second weekend once if you include this season in the last 15 years. I think most people would be surprised to hear that.

Brad Underwood has made the second weekend zero times in the last 15 years.

 

[surly]

Brad Underwood has made the second weekend zero times in the last 15 years.

Yeah, but his lead recruiter at oSu was wrapped up in the FBI sting. There is that. So, he does have hope going forward.

 

[JP4CY]

Brad Underwood has made the second weekend zero times in the last 15 years.

Being that he's coached at the power level for 4 years now including two rebuilds, that's not too shocking.

 

[ChampFantana]

Actually, I think the world of Huggins although his recruitment of Beasley was wrapped crooked, no doubt. But Huggins wasn't coaching then as crooked Billy Boy Self has been all along. There's no crooked like Billy Boy and his Ku "program." Huggins, on the other hand, brought the K-State MBB program back from the dreadful dead.

Fair to say that he brought KSU basketball back by cheating?

Was Frank Martin a cheater while at KSU?

 

[JP4CY]

Really, sir, go have a beer and relax a bit. I did not lie. We're having a discussion.

OK, I guess I know I can change your words freely when we have a discussion.

 

[surly]

Fair to say that he brought KSU basketball back by cheating?

Was Frank Martin a cheater while at KSU?

Yes, that's why John Currie sent him packing to the SEC.

 

[CloneGuy8]

The E8 is the only year Bruce has won a postseason NCAA tournament game in now his 8th year there.
I don't think Prohm cheats or puts up with entitlement either, just surprised you don't think his seat is warm at the minimum.

Wow, that's a pretty shocking stat.

 

[JP4CY]

Wow, that's a pretty shocking stat.

I actually thought the E8 was the only time he's cracked into the second weekend in 15 years was a little more surprising.

 

[JP4CY]

Yes, that's why John Currie sent him packing to the SEC.

Currie sent him/picked where he went?

 

[surly]

Currie sent him/picked where he went?

Martin, you may recall, was always shopping himself like a street corner *****. Whether it was USC,e, Miami, or some other place, he knew his time in Manhattan was limited due to his "style," recruiting techniques, and John Currie.

"Gary Parrish of CBS Sports reports that Frank Martin would walk over a bed of hot coals to take the Miami job if Miami will commit the resources to its basketball program. That's the big question: will Miami make that kind of commitment? Martin is a terrific coach and a Miami native. I'm not sure the U will ever have a chance like this again. Given its history and its lack of commitment to basketball, Miami might not ever have a chance to get a coach this good again." UF247

 

[JP4CY]

Martin, you may recall, was always shopping himself like a street corner *****. Whether it was USC,e, Miami, or some other place, he knew his time in Manhattan was limited due to his "style," recruiting techniques, and John Currie.

"Gary Parrish of CBS Sports reports that Frank Martin would walk over a bed of hot coals to take the Miami job if Miami will commit the resources to its basketball program. That's the big question: will Miami make that kind of commitment? Martin is a terrific coach and a Miami native. I'm not sure the U will ever have a chance like this again. Given its history and its lack of commitment to basketball, Miami might not ever have a chance to get a coach this good again." UF247

In typical Surly form, you didn't answer the question.

 

[SCyclone]

Bruce’s teams have been pretty awful in the Tournament. Two separate one and done’s as a 4 seed.

**** KU.

 

[surly]

In typical Surly form, you didn't answer the question.

I must have missed it. Ask again, please?

 

[JP4CY]

I must have missed it. Ask again, please?

JFC Surly, you quoted something from me that had this (?) symbol.

 

[trajanJ]

Bruce has struggled in the tourney at K-State but there's so much luck that goes into that tournament. He took an Illinois team to the championship game, losing to a monster UNC team that killed everyone. I think Bruce is a good coach. No way his seat should be warm, but if he goes another couple years at the bottom of the conference it will warm up in a hurry. That's just the way college sports is. Interesting thread, but why does Surly bring up KU in every single thread, even ones that have nothing to do with KU? Strange attraction.

 

[surly]

I still have no clue what the question is, guys?

97 - Selton Miguel - 4*
123 - Nigel Pack - 4*
135 - Davion Bradford - 4*
148 - Luke Kasubke - 3*

 

[VeloClone]

He's always on the floor and needs to get trucked over.
(Yes I know the photo is funny)

I just wonder if an opposing player with the ball accelerated and ran into Bruce on the floor if the Big 12 officials would have the balls to call the technical foul on Bruce. What about if they threw a pass through Bruce while he was on the floor. The coach isn't like an official so they would have to call something wouldn't they if a live ball hit a coach on the playing surface? Especially if it was a pass from out top to the corner so there is a chance it isn't going out of bounds if Bruce has his ass in the coach's box.

 

[surly]

I just wonder if an opposing player with the ball accelerated and ran into Bruce on the floor if the Big 12 officials would have the balls to call the technical foul on Bruce. What about if they threw a pass through Bruce while he was on the floor. The coach isn't like an official so they would have to call something wouldn't they if a live ball hit a coach on the playing surface?

A lot of coaches spend too much time doing this sort of stuff. Some of the worst are Tom Crean, Tom Izzo, and Bobby Hurley. They all operate within the rules of the game though. So, I'm not sure what the issue is here. If your guy was up and about, I doubt you'd be commenting about it. Or is this just bait-Surly Tuesday?

 

[VeloClone]

A lot of coaches spend too much time doing that sort of stuff. Some of the worst are Tom Crean, Tom Izzo, and Bobby Hurley. They all operate within the rules of the game though. So, I'm not sure what the issue is here. If your guy was up and about, I doubt you'd be commenting about it. Or is this just baiting Surly Tuesday?

I didn't post about Tom Crean, Tom Izzo or Bobby Hurley because this is a thread about Bruce. The rules provide for a technical foul in such a case, I'm curious if his being on the floor ever interferes with the game if they will have the balls to call it. It seems that players try to avoid him which becomes a defacto advantage for his team reducing the playing area they need to defend. It would be interesting if players were coached to go through him if he is in the way. What is baiting about that?