actually the worst part is the same people losing their minds about how terrible prohm is are like ghosts when they are winning.
It’s like uncytely in group form.
INSIDER: What I'm hearing on the scrimmage vs. Wisconsin
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actually the worst part is the same people losing their minds about how terrible prohm is are like ghosts when they are winning.
It’s like uncytely in group form.
Bolded: excellent point. People act like it was UNLV '90 under Fred when there were plenty of times their offense looked horrible.
This will be an interesting year. The 'youth' thing stands for a bit but if there's talent there it should be utilized.
Not for the vast swath of cyclone fans that understand what we have with CSP. The ones hurt most will be the shallowest, most ignorant of fans and we don't really want them around anyway, do we?
Indeed.
(1.) W's are W's, home or road. I like Hilton Magic, too, but we seem to have this unique thing as a fan base where we count home wins more than road wins. Nobody else does.
(2.) I remember Hoiberg teams with some awful dry spells, too.
The advanced metrics say our offense is just as good/if not better than under Hoiberg, and the defense is actually slightly better than it was under Hoiberg.
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Look at the ADJO and ADJD ratings and rankings and tell me what you see.
(3.) Oh yes, that Baylor game...
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We never had teams go on runs on us or have bad losses under Saint Fred of Lincoln.
(4.) We run a ton of PnR, just like we always did, and forced switches onto mismatches that we try to exploit, and usually have somebody go 1v1 at the end of the shot clock.
That is 75% of college basketball offenses nowadays.
See the efficiency numbers again. Prohm had the #9 offense in the nation last year.
(5.) Meh. Everybody is kind of discombobulated to start the season.
(6.) I thought these were fun.
This was a heck of a lot of fun, too...
You know what was not fun? Losing to a bad South Carolina team in New York.
We can both cherry-pick highlights and lowlights. The fact we can speaks to the similarities.
defense eff average under CFH 97.8
Defense eff average under CSP 98.2
We keep saying the defense is better under CSP but is that supported by the defense efficiency numbers? The two Best def eff for a team in the last 9 years were both under CFH.
In the same vein the efficiency numbers will tell us that CSP’s offenses have been more efficient that CFH.
look at you trying to argue against your own statements.
so who are the prohm defenders that go after Campbell?
Read the Oklahoma State, Baylor and Iowa game threads and then the “I’m done with Matt Campbell” thread.
Ok. Who in that group is a prohm defender?
most of those “fans” go after prohm much harder than they did Matt.
Yes it is odd that I’m remember the CFH’s offenses being more efficient just like you and others think that the CSP defenses are more efficient when the numbers don’t support either. Perhaps the numbers don’t quite tell the whole story.....I know that would be shocking.
Yes we did...didn’t we? The one year we may have had a look at it was when the lost to UCONN. Georges would have helped mightily in that game but people forget that Hogue went OFF in that game likely made up the scoring difference that Niang would have provided. It’s funny how pathetic some of these people that defend Fred are. He dumped us for someone hotter and ended up with a pig. **** him.
lol. At least be honest about your agenda here.
Who in those ignorant threads that went after the football coaches, are prohm defenders? You’re the one that made a statement as if it were a fact, so which ones are they?
I wasn’t even mad that he left. He had that heart issue his last year, his wife wanted out of Ames, and he had a friend that would hire him for a job that paid extremely well.
I understood.
but these fans trying so hard to defend and protect him are ridiculous.
CF needs to create a hoiberg/prohm cave, where all these threads can quickly land.
What’s my agenda? I’ve discussed facts and analysis with Sigs. I given CSP credit for getting this program on stable footing. I’ve indicated that if he gets to the NCAA the next three years he will be the best coach in Iowa State history and the debate about CFH vs. CSP will end. What is my agenda? I give credit to the architect and if CSP can continue to maintain the NCAA tournament level performance he will be the GOAT. Once again where is my agenda unless you don’t like facts being interjected to push back on other people’s agendas.
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Why are you not telling me the names of the prohm defenders that criticize Campbell?
And lol at you. You have Jeremy agreeing with you. That should tell you everything about what you’re doing here.
so, again, the names of the prohm defenders going after Campbell like you’re going after prohm?
The "architect" was Johnny. Everyone other than GMAC has done a good job of maintaining. Yes, even Wayne. Took a job no one wanted and kept our head above water. What Fred did to get us out of the GMAC death spiral was nothing short of a miracle. Don't know if anyone else could have done that. Just like however, I don't know if Fred could have maintained what you think CSP needs to do to become the "best coach in ISU history". It is what it is. Be happy CSP isn't GMAC and enjoy this season.
Why so much Fred love? He left ISU...we didn't leave him. Move on...
On a different note, anymore news on the Wisconsin scrimmage?
On a different note, anymore news on the Wisconsin scrimmage?
Your mission to downplay and dismiss every accomplishment under CFH is what is embarrassing. You are acting like a jilted gf. Please move past it. Some of us discuss numbers and facts and can have a decent conversation and debate. You add nothing other than insults and accusations.
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Hmmm- After working thru 18 pages on this thread I am beginning to understand why the coaches like to keep the box scores from secret scrimmages a secret.
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