Yeah, I dont think so. My guess is a multi year postseason ban and Self suspended for at least a year.
This is bad news for Ku hoops ...
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If the ncaa cannot rule over fake college classes, how can they rule over who can sponsor high school AAU programs? Maybe they could try to go the route of banning Adidas AAU players from NCAA eligibility but that would be patently absurd and would no doubt end up with them getting drug through court.
The real victim here is Josh Pastner. The guy runs a squeaky clean program all those years at Memphis, and then goes to Georgia Tech because of their fine academic reputation, but BAM! Holy NCAA violations! How was he supposed to know that they had committed violations when he came there? Poor guy, I hope he lands on his feet and can get another clean program started somewhere else.
Third bullet point is interesting to me. I didn't know the NCAA could impose fines to include helping themselves to a percentage of a school's budget for the sport in question.
I might have to rethink this. That $$$ from a KU basketball budget is actually pretty significant, especially if it includes the Adidas $$$ (which I assume it does). So in a roundabout way this is a way to punish Adidas for their role in the violations/activities.
I can see them (NCAA) liking the idea of getting money from KU's budget. Every big bureaucracy loves them some easy cash! Follow the $$$ is the old saying...
I might have to rethink this. That $$$ from a KU basketball budget is actually pretty significant, especially if it includes the Adidas $$$ (which I assume it does). So in a roundabout way this is a way to punish Adidas for their role in the violations/activities.
I can see them (NCAA) liking the idea of getting money from KU's budget. Every big bureaucracy loves them some easy cash! Follow the $$$ is the old saying...
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Do you think there's any chance Self coaches this year and then bolts for an NBA job? I read in one of the articles about this that KU can drag this thing all the way into next spring before there's even a hearing with the enforcement committee - KU has 90 days to respond to the allegations, the NCAA then has 60 days to respond to that, and then add another 45 days to set an actual hearing. It's possible an actual hearing might not take place until after the national championship game.
NCAA has actually delayed the all actions for about 2 months so the 90 days to respond doesn't start until November 20th.
1) If the NBA wanted Bill Self then his name would likely have been mentioned in previous coaching searches. It hasn't been. So I doubt that.
2) Those 90/60/45 day deadlines have now been removed by the ncaa, so the process can now drag on for a really long time.
Anything is "possible" but I find it to be highly unlikely. He gets paid better than most NBA coaches and that amount of money goes a long way in Lawrence, KS.
Not really.
The ncaa will not act on any cases until Nov. 20th. Nothing is due by then and no clock clock start then. All briefing deadlines have simply been suspended for the time being.
My guess is that you are right-on in your assessment of the situation. My post was more of the sarcastic, "I'll believe it when I see it" response based upon the history of bluebloods somehow being immune to penalties for wrong doing.
Dear Kansas,
We are going to have to punish Iowa State for this.
Sincerely,
NCAA
We are going to have to punish Iowa State for this.
Sincerely,
NCAA
Whenever you think a blue blood is going to get punished, always remember this quote:
"The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky they're going to give Cleveland State another year of probation."
Jerry Tarkanian
"The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky they're going to give Cleveland State another year of probation."
Jerry Tarkanian
Kansas still has only 1 Nat Championship in Selfs 16 years compared too 6 1st or 2nd round chokes.
This could be different. KU didn't take many disciplinary measures themselves. This punishment will be reduced but will still be pretty significant. Self may coach KU this year but I don't think he'll be coaching next year.
Might want to read what I wrote again. All you did was repeat what I wrote. Try again.
I would take that for ISU in a heartbeat.
KU FB/Basketball Mix here (Reporting from the KC Star 9/27):
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/c...2.html?utm_source=pushly&intcid=pushly_449990
On Monday, KU pointed to the previous self-reported violations under Beaty as an example of its compliance system working correctly. But at the same time, KU plans to vigorously defend men’s basketball coach Bill Self and his program, which faces five Level I violations, the most serious the NCAA can allege.
This week, The Star found five instances of KU football analysts — prohibited from giving on-field instruction by NCAA bylaw 11.7.3 — appearing to coach players over the last five months. The game and practice video reviewed included multiple examples of a special teams analyst giving directions during drills on April 9 and Aug. 9 and also in KU’s 29-24 home loss to West Virginia on Saturday.
"rut row."
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/c...2.html?utm_source=pushly&intcid=pushly_449990
On Monday, KU pointed to the previous self-reported violations under Beaty as an example of its compliance system working correctly. But at the same time, KU plans to vigorously defend men’s basketball coach Bill Self and his program, which faces five Level I violations, the most serious the NCAA can allege.
This week, The Star found five instances of KU football analysts — prohibited from giving on-field instruction by NCAA bylaw 11.7.3 — appearing to coach players over the last five months. The game and practice video reviewed included multiple examples of a special teams analyst giving directions during drills on April 9 and Aug. 9 and also in KU’s 29-24 home loss to West Virginia on Saturday.
"rut row."
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