People need to get over trying to use ROI in regards to the athletic budget. There is so much money schools are taking on new projects just for the sake of spending the money.
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People need to get over trying to use ROI in regards to the athletic budget. There is so much money schools are taking on new projects just for the sake of spending the money.
To Bill Brasky!
I just wish ISU was in the spending just to spend position. I believe that with our position towards the bottom of P5 AD budgets, we have to be smarter and more creative with our expenditures. Which, as an ISU grad, I believe we will always be smarter than our athletic foes (even though we haven’t always been...)
I do agree that they need to put together a plan to resurface or rebuild at least the B/C/D lots. That's going to cost a lot of money, but those lots are in total disrepair. I would love to see a plan for RVs similar to Tiger Lane in Memphis. Maybe that goes into the new G6, maybe it doesn't. I do think that if the AD offered to put some money into the new intramural complex (or pay for paving that lot), they should be able to park cars there on gameday (they park in G6 now and I'm guessing Rec Services owns it). Just from looking at the rendering, that new parking lot would be 4x one of the S lots, so that is a bunch of new parking available.
The renovated IM fields will ADD ~500 parking spots (grass) that didn't exist before, and will replace the gravel/G6 area that is being lost due to the reno with a new gravel parking area of a similar size.
The conversion of C1/C2 to donor parking has made another ~650 paved spots available.
The conversion of C1/C2 to donor parking has made another ~650 paved spots available.
At least $20M, based on the last published capital plan. The question is which entities will pay for it, and how much will each entity pay.
So to your point just rip out the new renovated IM fields that are used year round for a lot of things, and screw everyone else.
My point Pave the new G6 lot that will be 5 times as big and the G7 lot and upgrade and move donors as needed. Without having to touch the IM fields and gaining 1000s of paved spots. Plus, adding a lot at the land owned south of the stadium as pointed out for non donors, which is a close walk, a lot closer than the Towers lots, and add a couple more shuttle rides.
Or you can continue to tell everyone else that they are stupid for saying moving the IM fields is probably never going to happen because there are too many easier alternatives. Good luck with that.
I'm impressed it came in that low. I assume that's bituminous with the same C&G island layout?
No, my point was moving the IM fields out to the towers area, not reduce the fields, just add more parking by the stadium. Looking at the plans I do not see a paved parking lot, but a grass lot behind the IM fields, maybe I am wrong, but it looks like grass to me.
I guess I was mistaken, I didn't realize those IM fields were used for snow skiing and such during the winter, I must have missed that as I drive by them.
Look your side is right, it was a mistake for me or anyone else to be thinking about parking for the average fan or donors in the future. They have already started the earth moving. But, I will add, I do not want to read or hear about parking problems in the future, we have plenty of parking around JTS, that is the line I want to hear, and you and others defending that position.
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This dude has never worked night shift
. Beers for breakfast nothing wrong with that.
And I'm sure that the price is not going down year to year. Still, something has to be done there. Those lots are flat out crumbling. There needs to be a plan in place...whether it is one lot a year or multiple lots. I would probably start by increasing the cost of a parking pass to get on hard surface. $50 is a steal and non-donors are paying $20/game. I know it's a perk of being a donor, but I don't think that anyone would scoff if those passes were $100/season. They could also charge $50 for the MBB parking passes and it would still be a good deal. That extra money would make a big dent in lot upkeep/renovation.
Seems as though $200 for RVs, $100 for paved auto parking, and $50 for grass parking for donors makes sense to me if it means better conditions. I like parking in G7 simpl because it gives me more tailgating room. The paved spots seem too crowded to my wife, and she is the boss.
Does anyone remember when the lots south of Hilton were last surfaced? 1971? I have been going to games at Hilton since it opened, JTS since it opened, and was a student at ISU in the 80s. I don't remember the Hilton lots getting a new surface.
There is going to be a small building with bathroom and some locker facilities with a paved parking lot there.
Just an FYI, between the intramural fields, Hilton repaving, and 85E expanding, ISU has/ will have added over 1,000 parking spots in that area.
Last time I checked, 85E was closed. Maybe it will reopen before the season. Not sure when it was "expanded."
They resigned the parking layout and gained a couple hundred give or take. They went from angled, to straight parking and changed parking direction.
85 W is closed for the SPC. 85E is being expanded right now to increase parking from losing 85W, it will be a net gain.
https://www.fpm.iastate.edu/plannin...ary.asp?CP_Number=CP002560&Work_order=WG35006
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I never said those areas were paved, I said they could pave them to add 1000s of paved spaces without moving the IM fields. The new paved area will be bigger but, there are optional areas that could be paved as well. Plus add additional parking in the land south of the stadium. Without moving the fields. Plus many other options to improve and expand the current parking system without moving the IM fields.
The point is It is very doubtful that those fields ever go anywhere, there are too many other options to expand and enhance parking around the stadium for them to ever need to move them.
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