Pollard pointing out the obvious
- Thread starter CyTwins
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You'd imagine being someone who takes the time to think about what demeaning words are.
Listen, I'm not trading any of the coaches but we should probably start beating them in a majority of the noted sports. Wrestling has been a disaster until recently and we aren't exactly on a winning streak against the Hawks. I appreciate the sentiment here, but we're not the bear right now and I don't blame anyone for mocking the notion that we are.
Man, the amount of triggered Hawk fans on Facebook regarding what Pollard said is priceless. Sometimes I think Pollard just does this to get a rise.
To me this is Twins trying to reshape the argument. Pollard's quote isn't isolated to coaches. It's talking about programs. So while you can say Dresser and Campbell are better coaches, that is a much different argument than saying our football and wrestling programs have surpassed Iowa's. Have we shortened the gap considerably? Yes. But to suggest we've surpassed them-- I don't know about that.
I don't necessarily agree that we're "the bear" at this moment but what we do have is a lot of hype and potential to be "the bear". The current direction of multiple sports at Iowa State is trending fast in the right direction and I think a lot of Iowa Hawkeye fans are scared of that, whether they're able to admit it or not. We have great coaches in almost every single sport, and we're starting to recruit very well in them. In football particularly, we've won some games against Iowa where we probably were not the better team and then did mediocre after that and most Iowa fans were able to brush it off, thinking that game was our "superbowl". When we beat them, are knowingly the better team, and finish the season strong, Iowa fans are not going to be able to say much. It shows when the past two off season, threads and twitter are filled with their fans wishing and hoping Campbell takes another job.
I think Pollard is thinking much broader and longer-term than the current state of the athletics programs. Pollard has the benefit of seeing that when he took the job almost everybody in the state of Iowa could be classified as: 1. ISU alum, 2. ISU students and 3. Hawk fans. Not to mention there were plenty of ISU students and alumni that were Hawk fans.
Iowa fans still make up a majority of fans in the state, but with ISU's enrollment advantage overall, massive enrollment advantage to in-state students (who are far and away the most likely to settle in the state), advantage in the basketball program and tons of momentum in football, the landscape has changed dramatically.
Pretty brash statement, but that's JP.
CyTwins goal everyday is to troll the 4 hawk fans on this board
I wouldn't put him in that category. He has been OK considering what he was given.
Agreed. Kujo or whatever the hell he calls himself is a classic Hok douchebag, who needs to be swatted away like the hokroach he is. And what the hell is a kujawa anyway?
I mean he has the same amount of Sweet 16 appearances and Big 12 Tournament titles as Fred did, and has brought in highly talented recruiting classes. I would say he's picked up pretty dang nicely where Fred left off.
Prohm literally had to start over and got us back into the tournament. Just ok. FOH
I have to say - this is very true. Pollard is good at many things, but he is also fortunate he is at ISU; we have a fan base stays with programs even if they're losing.
You can't even begin to compare the financials from when JP started to when Prohm and Campbell were hired . It's not that cut and dry. On paper both the Chiz and McDoormat were outstanding hires and JP went out and got guys that Iowa State could afford.
Which in turn fills threads with the same stupid back-and-forth. Who is trolling whom? I wish we all would just put the Hoktrolls on our Ignore lists.
