Perhaps the FBI/NCAA unseat Ku first ...

[surly]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...g-from-fbi-case-involving-college-basketball/

Meanwhile, there is still an unsettling feeling internally that the NCAA may not be done with Kansas.

Emmert told a group of reporters in December that the association had the "manpower and willpower" to investigate some of biggest names and brands in college basketball stemming from the FBI investigation.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

After the NCAA gave North Carolina a free pass I have a really hard time seeing them dropping the hammer on one of the blue bloods.

 

[isu81]

After the NCAA gave North Carolina a free pass I have a really hard time seeing them dropping the hammer on one of the blue bloods.

No comparison. There were no illegal benefits in the North Carolina case. Jay Bilas spells it out here. NCAA cares about improper benefits (including potentially Kansas' payments) and has no jurisdiction in the North Carolina situation.

 

[ArgentCy]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...g-from-fbi-case-involving-college-basketball/

Meanwhile, there is still an unsettling feeling internally that the NCAA may not be done with Kansas.

Emmert told a group of reporters in December that the association had the "manpower and willpower" to investigate some of biggest names and brands in college basketball stemming from the FBI investigation.

That last part. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. sure you do....

 

[coolerifyoudid]

So by declaring Gassnola as a booster in their attempt to get De Sousa reinstated, they essentially propped the door open for NCAA infractions?

Also:
One ongoing option for Kansas: It may file a "reconsideration request" in the De Sousa case. A school may request reconsideration in such cases "based on new information that was not reasonably available at the time of the decision," according to the NCAA.

Can someone please just be upfront with Kansas on the proper ways to cheat and cover it up so they can put this whole mess behind them?

Besides, Duke and North Carolina cheat. That immediately makes it ok.

 

[VeloClone]

...

Can someone please just be upfront with Kansas on the proper ways to cheat and cover it up so they can put this whole mess behind them?

Besides, Duke and North Carolina cheat. That immediately makes it ok.

For a minute there I thought Tuco had highjacked your account.

 

[Clonehomer]

No comparison. There were no illegal benefits in the North Carolina case. Jay Bilas spells it out here. NCAA cares about improper benefits (including potentially Kansas' payments) and has no jurisdiction in the North Carolina situation.

So what's their excuse for looking the other way on Zion Williamson?

 

[randomfan44]

No comparison. There were no illegal benefits in the North Carolina case. Jay Bilas spells it out here. NCAA cares about improper benefits (including potentially Kansas' payments) and has no jurisdiction in the North Carolina situation.

Just faux eligibility.

 

[randomfan44]

So what's their excuse for looking the other way on Zion Williamson?

Coach K is untouchable. Same reason UCLA didnt get looked at until the day after Wooden retired.

 

[bosco]

NCAA: we found some impropriety going on with one of our cash cows. We are totally going to put the hammer on them.

What actually happens: ...

 

[Rabbuk]

Coach K is untouchable. Same reason UCLA didnt get looked at until the day after Wooden retired.

you dont get to complain

 

[fsanford]

After the NCAA gave North Carolina a free pass I have a really hard time seeing them dropping the hammer on one of the blue bloods.

As bad as it sounds there was no rules listed in the NCAA by laws to where what UNC did was a violation as it relates to the class offerings. Was listing to Bilas talk about it. He basically said the NCAA needs to write some rules with teeth that actually deal with what UNC did.

The NCAA investigation was an attempt to try and find some other rules violation, like students taking tests for players, but they know they had no shot as it relates to questionable classes.

This FBI thing is an entirely different thing, lots of rules with regards to paying players, agents etc.

Will see, but the fact they made a kid sit out 2 years, is pretty severe for a kid going to a Blue Blood. That does not happen, so it kind of points to more than a hand slap coming to Lawrence.

Edit: Just saw ISU81 comment on Bilas.

 

[aeroclone]

This was actually my first thought when they declared Gassanola a booster as part of the De Souza case. It seemed incredibly short sighted. Now you have a school having officially admitted to a formal relationship with the individual who just got convicted in federal court of paying recruits to go to said school. Seems like a huge risk for a potentially minimal reward (and they ultimately didn't even get that with De Souza getting the ban hammer) . Love it.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Reminds me of that old saying...

"The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky that Cleveland State is going to get the death penalty."

 

[cykadelic2]

As bad as it sounds there was no rules listed in the NCAA by laws to where what UNC did was a violation as it relates to the class offerings. Was listing to Bilas talk about it. He basically said the NCAA needs to write some rules with teeth that actually deal with what UNC did.

The NCAA investigation was an attempt to try and find some other rules violation, like students taking tests for players, but they know they had no shot as it relates to questionable classes.

UNC should have lost their accreditation regarding their issues and the NCAA doesn't have jurisdiction over that.

 

[surly]

Gatto, others in NCAA basketball scandal seek probation; they argue scheme was designed to help KU, other universities
KU
FEB 14, 2019 - 11:05AM

DYLAN LYSEN
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• In October, a jury found former Adidas executive James Gatto, business manager Christian Dawkins and amateur league director Merl Code all guilty of fraud.
  
  The trial centered on whether the men’s admitted effort to channel secret payments to the families of top recruits, luring them to major basketball programs sponsored by Adidas, including KU, was criminal. At stake was a fortune in revenue for the basketball programs and potential endorsement deals for the players if they went pro, both the prosecutors and defense have contended.
  
  Attorneys for the three men filed separate court documents on Tuesday that requested they receive probation sentences rather than jail time. In all three filings, attorneys for the men argued they deserve mercy and leniency from the court, noting they did not intend to harm the universities but help them.
  
  “Indeed, the government has never been able to show that Mr. Gatto sought to inflict pecuniary harm upon the universities,” Gatto’s attorneys wrote in his filing. “To the contrary, helping the Universities recruit successful basketball teams — which even the government’s cooperating witnesses agree was the purpose of the alleged scheme — was understood by the scheme participants as one that could help the universities bring in tens of millions of dollars in annual revenue.”
  
  The three men are scheduled to be sentenced on March 5, according to the filings.
  
  During the trial, testimony focused on KU coach Bill Self’s relationship with government witness T.J. Gassnola. The former Adidas consultant testified that he paid the families of players to steer them to KU, including $90,000 to the mother of Billy Preston and $2,500 to the guardian of Silvio De Sousa. Gassnola testified that he never told Self about the payments. Gassnola is awaiting sentencing in a separate but related federal case.
  
  The defense in the case argued that the coaches, including Self and KU assistant coach Kurtis Townsend, were aware of the payments to players. Despite the argument, the jury found all three men guilty of defrauding universities, including KU, by providing money to players’ families to steer them toward certain programs.
  
  Additionally, because of Gassnola’s actions revealed in the trial, the NCAA announced earlier this month that De Sousa is ineligible to play for KU until the 2020-21 season. KU has said it is appealing that NCAA ruling.
  

 

[randomfan44]

Breaking news...a defendant on a criminal claims it wasn't their fault, their idea and someone else is to blame.

<sarcasm>Never seen that before...</sarcasm>

 

[randomfan44]

NCAA: we found some impropriety going on with one of our cash cows. We are totally going to put the hammer on them.

What actually happens: ...

I wish that Kansas got that benefit but a review of ncaa rulings against Kansas leads me to believe that they don't.

 

[CyTwins]

I wish that Kansas got that benefit

Lol

 

[jcyclonee]

Breaking news...a defendant on a criminal claims it wasn't their fault, their idea and someone else is to blame.

<sarcasm>Never seen that before...</sarcasm>

They're not really claiming any of those things as far as I can tell. What they're claiming is that people associated with the universities' athletic departments knew about it and were therefore knowledgeable about the potential benefits of these transactions.