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Shocking. Also not shocking. The knicks are the cowboys of basketball.
If he couldnt get KAT and Brunson to play D, I dont know who will.
Hot-take: that organization goes backwards next season! Unless they pull off something crazy like acquiring Giannis. And even then...it isn't easy to make the conference finals!
Hopefully someone can find a clip. I remember an interview with Johnny when they were looking at going to 3 free throws on 3 point shots and they asked Johnny what he thought about it, it was over 30 years ago but I think Johnny said "it's the dumbest $#@&$ thing I've ever heard of"
I miss Johnny.
I feel kind of bad Hali got Thibs fired from the Knicks.
Trade Towns to Golden State and let Jimmy Butler have another go at him. He’ll either learn to play defense or quit basketball.
Kind of surprising, but if I were a Knicks fan I think I'd be supportive of the change. I can't help but think that if Carlisle and Thibs swapped benches, the outcome might have swapped, too. The play style of putting so much reliance on heavy minutes from the starters and offensive workload on Brunson just doesn't pay off in the modern NBA. In the playoffs, a coach has to be able to make a ton of adjustments and maximize the value of his role players, and Thibs has just shown little ability to do that.
The Knicks did make it further than they did last year, which they should be happy about. But they also got knocked out by the same team, despite the Knicks probably improving more on paper from last playoffs than the Pacers did (full health in the series, and adding KAT vs. Randle being completely out last year). The Knicks aren't constructed very well, but I think many coaches would've handled their roster better than Thibs did.
The Knicks did make it further than they did last year, which they should be happy about. But they also got knocked out by the same team, despite the Knicks probably improving more on paper from last playoffs than the Pacers did (full health in the series, and adding KAT vs. Randle being completely out last year). The Knicks aren't constructed very well, but I think many coaches would've handled their roster better than Thibs did.
Other coaches wouldn’t have waited until the playoffs to see that 7th or 8th guy could contribute some minutes.
Exactly, Thibs signature short rotation is only a part of what kept them from title contention.
Two ball dominant excellent half court offensive players who are poor in transition and defense for their position.
NBA is going to be the first league with AI coaches - why pay $50 million for a human you're going to fire for missing the finals by a game? Just adjust the algorithm.
His teams are regular season beasts with post season limits for this, all the way back to DRose teams.
That said on offense it doesn’t matter what the rotation is if the team stars don’t share the ball.
I was going to say something g similar. The Pacers had significant injuries last year too (and first half of this year or they’d have finished easily ahead of NY), there was just a media ban on discussing it and part of why they got slept on this year. Against Boston least year Tyrese was basically a decoy who couldn’t even shoot, healthy Indy could’ve made finals or had a 6-7 game ECF, all the games were close even though they got swept.
That, too. Knicks fans talk about having no depth, but part of the way you get depth is by trying out different lineups during the regular season to see what works and in what situations players play best.
I have a hard time believing that Ben Sheppard and Thomas Bryant/Tony Bradley are enough better than Landry Shamet and Precious Achiuwa for the former to be getting important minutes while the latter are bench afterthoughts.
Exactly this, Ben Sheppard as an example is a decent player who has 100% bought in to his role which makes him more valuable to the Pacers than he might be on paper in a trade.
It helps having a uniquely unselfish star player like Tyrese who doesn't get upset when Carlisle subs him out on key defensive playoff possessions for a role player like Sheppard. Tyrese knows Carlisle will do the same on offense to make sure he closes every quarter final shot in a key game.
Brunson sucks on D and doesn't even have Tyrese length to disrupt plays, a lot of those players on the bench would have been way better in key defensive situations. Carlisle/Tyrese/role players all believe in that without egos, Thibs/Brunson/cast just don't do that or have that trust.
